Odd view of Democracy

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Gretchen Whitmer and Josh Shapiro pulled off bigger upsets than Ron DeSantis. What would you rather have? A candidate that can win in a swing state or a candidate that wins big in a state largely full of their own voters?

Florida is Florida (and TX is TX), but does an anti-abortion-access/anti-science/anti-corporation presidential candidate attract moderate Rs and Is?
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I never said Desantis’ win was an upset. Never came close to saying it. his margin of victory is impressive, his win in Miami Dade is noteworthy, and his accomplishments are extraordinary. 850 people
a day are moving to FL. 850 a day.

Whitmer, similarly, wasn’t an upset. She’s an incumbent who isn’t unpopular with her party.

Shapiro is impressive.

Desantis is a big reason why FL isn’t a swing state right now. 4 years ago he won by a point. tuesday he won by 20. show me an incumbent who won de election, who i creased his margin of history by 20 points?

Florida was a swing state until Desantis took over. You’ll
never admit it, but he simply a solid leader. The good thing is, it doesn’t matter at all that you can’t admit it. it’s true whether you like it or not.

who is anti science? Desantis? He’s one of the i my governors who got the science right on covid, one of the only ones who bucked the trend and kept his state unemployment way below national averages and kept kids in school. again, no one cares if you hate that fact. It’s still a fact.

who’s anti corporation? I’m curious who you’re saying is anti corporation.

you’re coming unglued my man.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I never said Desantis’ win was an upset.

you’re coming unglued my man.

no but he went from barely winning last time to winning by 20 points in a state where pete told us he killed all of his voters and geraldo told us latinos were going to make him pay for something he did and pete told us crist was winning bigly....

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

no but he went from barely winning last time to winning by 20 points in a state where pete told us he killed all of his voters and geraldo told us latinos were going to make him pay for something he did and pete told us crist was winning bigly....

exactly. he increased his margin of victory by 20 points in a state that has been a toss up state lately. It ain’t Oklahoma.

WTF is going on in arizona with vote counting? doesn't instill
confidence. Should be enough for Lake if you assume in person votes lean right.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

exactly. he increased his margin of victory by 20 points in a state that has been a toss up state lately. It ain’t Oklahoma.

WTF is going on in arizona with vote counting? doesn't instill
confidence. Should be enough for Lake if you assume in person votes lean right.

They could do it the way Florida does it . Blame Arizona Republicans. The had all 3 offices and did nothing .

And even if lake wins it won’t change she’ll claim some crazy reason and her idea will be to suppress the vote. Or try to gerrymander maricopa county because that’s where they lose elections
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

They could do it the way Florida does it . Blame Arizona Republicans. The had all 3 offices and did nothing .

And even if lake wins it won’t change she’ll claim some crazy reason and her idea will be to suppress the vote. Or try to gerrymander maricopa county because that’s where they lose elections
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"Blame Arizona Republicans. The had all 3 offices and did nothing ."

Fire them all. You have this pattern of posting when Republicans fail, like you think I'm incapable of admitting it, when I say all the time that Republicans are as flawed as anyone else.

You are the one who insists his side is never wrong. Not me.

"And even if lake wins it won’t change"

Quite the fortune teller. How about we wait and see?

"Or try to gerrymander maricopa county because that’s where they lose elections"

You have never, not once, criticized the NY legislature for gerrymandering that state so bad that a democrat court threw out the map, saying it was illegal gerrymandering. You refuse to comment on that, but you're more concerned about gerrymandering in AZ that hasn't happened yet.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"Blame Arizona Republicans. The had all 3 offices and did nothing ."

Fire them all. You have this pattern of posting when Republicans fail, like you think I'm incapable of admitting it, when I say all the time that Republicans are as flawed as anyone else.

You are the one who insists his side is never wrong. Not me.

"And even if lake wins it won’t change"

Quite the fortune teller. How about we wait and see?

"Or try to gerrymander maricopa county because that’s where they lose elections"

You have never, not once, criticized the NY legislature for gerrymandering that state so bad that a democrat court threw out the map, saying it was illegal gerrymandering. You refuse to comment on that, but you're more concerned about gerrymandering in AZ that hasn't happened yet.

WTF is going on in arizona with vote counting? doesn't instill
confidence.

Republicans run Arizona it's that simple there is no one else to criticize for the slow vote count

Fire them all. they are elected


And if you support Lake you are by default a fellow election deniers just like all the others who support her .. because that's what she ran on and other Trumpy rhetoric .. she not an apple you can cut up and only eat the pieces you like.


Shes a class Act Scoot would like her she's just a bomb thrower like Him

During a recent campaign event — footage of which was shared to Twitter — Lake asked the crowd, "We don't have any McCain Republicans in here, do we?" eliciting boos from her supporters.

yet when he died The “Maverick” has died. Four days shy of his 82nd birthday Senator John Mccain passed away at his Cornville, Arizona home after a courageous battle with cancer. A war hero, icon and a force to be reckoned with. Sending my deepest condolences to his family at this painful time.

would we call that having Standards

Kari Lake raises unfounded doubts about election results in Arizona governor race that’s too early to call

Kari Lake raises unfounded doubts about election results in Arizona governor race that’s too early to call
She struck a similar note even as she went to cast her own ballot Tuesday, telling reporters that voters had called her in tears earlier in the day because of problems with tabulation machines at some Maricopa County polls.

“We have had problems after problems,” she said, vowing to reform the election process if elected. “When we win, there’s going to be a come to Jesus for elections in Arizona.”

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

WTF is going on in arizona with vote counting? doesn't instill
confidence.

Republicans run Arizona it's that simple there is no one else to criticize for the slow vote count

Fire them all. they are elected


And if you support Lake you are by default a fellow election deniers just like all the others who support her .. because that's what she ran on and other Trumpy rhetoric .. she not an apple you can cut up and only eat the pieces you like.


Shes a class Act Scoot would like her she's just a bomb thrower like Him

During a recent campaign event — footage of which was shared to Twitter — Lake asked the crowd, "We don't have any McCain Republicans in here, do we?" eliciting boos from her supporters.

yet when he died The “Maverick” has died. Four days shy of his 82nd birthday Senator John Mccain passed away at his Cornville, Arizona home after a courageous battle with cancer. A war hero, icon and a force to be reckoned with. Sending my deepest condolences to his family at this painful time.

would we call that having Standards

Kari Lake raises unfounded doubts about election results in Arizona governor race that’s too early to call

Kari Lake raises unfounded doubts about election results in Arizona governor race that’s too early to call
She struck a similar note even as she went to cast her own ballot Tuesday, telling reporters that voters had called her in tears earlier in the day because of problems with tabulation machines at some Maricopa County polls.

“We have had problems after problems,” she said, vowing to reform the election process if elected. “When we win, there’s going to be a come to Jesus for elections in Arizona.”

"Republicans run Arizona it's that simple there is no one else to criticize for the slow vote count "

Did you see me imply that any democrats were at fault?

Just because every single post you make is one-sided, that doesn't apply to me. Whoever is in charge (and it may be state officials, it may be county officials, I have no idea and presume you don't either), fire them all. This is what gives people legitimate reason to question things.

"And if you support Lake Hilary or Stacey Abrams you are by default a fellow election deniers"

Fixed it for you.

""We don't have any McCain Republicans in here, do we?" eliciting boos from her supporters."

McCain was a hero. He was also a RINO, not a very effective Republican. I agree with her that he was a terrible politician in terms of advocating for what was right.

"would we call that having Standards "

Again, it's OK to be respectful right after his death.

You have a brain-damaged, slovenly ogre in the US Senate from PA, and you don't have a syllable of concern about that. He makes Biden look like Stephen Hawking.

"Kari Lake raises unfounded doubts about election results in Arizona governor race that’s too early to call"

Unfounded? There have been all kinds of problems in Maricopa, started early Tuesday. It's a complete mess.

Is it possible for any republican anywhere, to have a legitimate complaint about anything? Ever? Anywhere?

liberal=good, conservative=bad, always, never any exceptions. We get it!

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Shes a class Act Scoot would like her she's just a bomb thrower like Him

good job fedderwoman....

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I never said Desantis’ win was an upset. Never came close to saying it. his margin of victory is impressive, his win in Miami Dade is noteworthy, and his accomplishments are extraordinary. 850 people
a day are moving to FL. 850 a day.

Whitmer, similarly, wasn’t an upset. She’s an incumbent who isn’t unpopular with her party.

Shapiro is impressive.

Desantis is a big reason why FL isn’t a swing state right now. 4 years ago he won by a point. tuesday he won by 20. show me an incumbent who won de election, who i creased his margin of history by 20 points?

Florida was a swing state until Desantis took over. You’ll
never admit it, but he simply a solid leader. The good thing is, it doesn’t matter at all that you can’t admit it. it’s true whether you like it or not.

who is anti science? Desantis? He’s one of the i my governors who got the science right on covid, one of the only ones who bucked the trend and kept his state unemployment way below national averages and kept kids in school. again, no one cares if you hate that fact. It’s still a fact.

who’s anti corporation? I’m curious who you’re saying is anti corporation.

you’re coming unglued my man.

You’re right in that I don’t think he’s a good leader, he’s demonstrated many times that he’s got a glass chin and can’t handle political battles.

What the #^&#^&#^&#^& did you THINK would happen?

The Florida GOP is the single best Republican party in the country, hands down. It has infinite money, a deep bench of consultants and operatives, and *wins.*
It’s Alabama football vs the Middle Missouri Girls’ Preparatory Academy Field Hockey team.
The FL Dems? Tough love time: they can’t organize a two-car motorcade, I’ve got more money in my glove compartment, and their skilled operators could fit around a Waffle House table.
And here’s the REAL tough love: they let themselves be painted as far to the left in a RED STATE. Florida is and has been and is become more of a red state by the day. The idea that DeSantis and Rubio “turned Florida red” is absurd, an almost hilariously bad take.
Florida was and has been a red state for a generation; blue wins were largely just statistical noise, certainly at the statewide level. This win is not the flex you think it is.

This is like Mike Tyson boxing with a 90 year old man in a nursing home. The outcome is not unexpected.

Frankly, the question isn’t why DeSantis won by 20 points. Rather, why didn’t he win by 40 points?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

You’re right in that I don’t think he’s a good leader, he’s demonstrated many times that he’s got a glass chin and can’t handle political battles.

What the #^&#^&#^&#^& did you THINK would happen?

The Florida GOP is the single best Republican party in the country, hands down. It has infinite money, a deep bench of consultants and operatives, and *wins.*
It’s Alabama football vs the Middle Missouri Girls’ Preparatory Academy Field Hockey team.
The FL Dems? Tough love time: they can’t organize a two-car motorcade, I’ve got more money in my glove compartment, and their skilled operators could fit around a Waffle House table.
And here’s the REAL tough love: they let themselves be painted as far to the left in a RED STATE. Florida is and has been and is become more of a red state by the day. The idea that DeSantis and Rubio “turned Florida red” is absurd, an almost hilariously bad take.
Florida was and has been a red state for a generation; blue wins were largely just statistical noise, certainly at the statewide level. This win is not the flex you think it is.

This is like Mike Tyson boxing with a 90 year old man in a nursing home. The outcome is not unexpected.

Frankly, the question isn’t why DeSantis won by 20 points. Rather, why didn’t he win by 40 points?
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"he’s got a glass chin"

If he had a glass chin, he'd be dead by now. He's the second most attacked human by the left after Trump. If he had a glass chin, he wouldn't have such an unbelievable record of saying "no" to woke nonsense, because he knows he's going to get attacked for it. If he cared about protecting a glass chin, he wouldn't do most of what he does.

"can’t handle political battles."

Tell that to governor Crist.

"What the #^&#^&#^&#^& did you THINK would happen?"

Well, you posted polls saying Crist was going to win. Then you say a Desantis 20 point landslide wasn't any kind of upset. So if we looked up the phrase "wanting to have it both ways", there's be a photo of you.

I was confident Desantis was going to win. But any way you cut it, a 20 point increase in margin of victory, is a big deal.

"I don’t think he’s a good leader"

His constituents disagree, and so do many of the 850 people a day moving there.

"It’s Alabama football vs the Middle Missouri Girls’ Preparatory Academy Field Hockey team."

Again, that's sure not what you were saying a few days ago!

You are precious Pete. Watching you guys try to always spin every single event to serve The Narrative.

"Florida is and has been and is become more of a red state"

Except Obama won in twice! Some reliable red state!!

You guys will say ANYTIHNG to protect liberalism. What in Gods name is in that Kool Aid anyway?

You are very, very special.

"This is like Mike Tyson boxing with a 90 year old man in a nursing home. The outcome is not unexpected."

Again, do you not read your own posts?

He won in a landslide, he flipped Miami Dade which Hilary won by 30 points in 2016, he has soaring approval ratings, and huge numbers of people and businesses want to re-locate to his state. Despite having no income tax, he has managed to create a landscape that huge numbers of people and businesses want to move to. That's called "winning" buddy.

Keep howling ta the moon, Pete...

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"he’s got a glass chin"

If he had a glass chin, he'd be dead by now. He's the second most attacked human by the left after Trump. If he had a glass chin, he wouldn't have such an unbelievable record of saying "no" to woke nonsense, because he knows he's going to get attacked for it. If he cared about protecting a glass chin, he wouldn't do most of what he does.

"can’t handle political battles."

Tell that to governor Crist.

"What the #^&#^&#^&#^& did you THINK would happen?"

Well, you posted polls saying Crist was going to win. Then you say a Desantis 20 point landslide wasn't any kind of upset. So if we looked up the phrase "wanting to have it both ways", there's be a photo of you.

I was confident Desantis was going to win. But any way you cut it, a 20 point increase in margin of victory, is a big deal.

"I don’t think he’s a good leader"

His constituents disagree, and so do many of the 850 people a day moving there.

"It’s Alabama football vs the Middle Missouri Girls’ Preparatory Academy Field Hockey team."

Again, that's sure not what you were saying a few days ago!

You are precious Pete. Watching you guys try to always spin every single event to serve The Narrative.

"Florida is and has been and is become more of a red state"

Except Obama won in twice! Some reliable red state!!

You guys will say ANYTIHNG to protect liberalism. What in Gods name is in that Kool Aid anyway?

You are very, very special.

"This is like Mike Tyson boxing with a 90 year old man in a nursing home. The outcome is not unexpected."

Again, do you not read your own posts?

He won in a landslide, he flipped Miami Dade which Hilary won by 30 points in 2016, he has soaring approval ratings, and huge numbers of people and businesses want to re-locate to his state. Despite having no income tax, he has managed to create a landscape that huge numbers of people and businesses want to move to. That's called "winning" buddy.

Keep howling ta the moon, Pete...

He’s your new favorite authoritarian, how predictable.

Big Gretch, Josh, Gavin Newsom, Wes Moore, Jared Polis - the bench for the post Biden Presidential bench is looking better and better.

All the Trumplicans have is Trump and Trump toadies.
Between Desanctimonious, Lying Ted, Little Marco, Running Cotton, Gym Jordan, Three toe, and the Moscow Mules you’ve got a lot to pick from
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