Desantis sends two plane loads of illegals to Martha’s Vineyard

[PaulS]

No other country is as rich as we are with millions of poor bordering us.

We should increase legal immigration drastically. Now would be a good time to give extra consideration to those Russ./ukr scientist/bus. owners.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by PaulS

No other country is as rich as we are with millions of poor bordering us.

We should increase legal immigration drastically. Now would be a good time to give extra consideration to those Russ./ukr scientist/bus. owners.

Agreed. That needs to be a discussion point.
Barry Ritholtz was on a pod cast talking about labor shortage issues related to COVID (deaths + earlier retirements + people improving their skills and moving up into better jobs + people who left jobs to start a small business). He was advocating for this increase to bolster the service/production/transport sectors...

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Agreed. That needs to be a discussion point.
Barry Ritholtz was on a pod cast talking about labor shortage issues related to COVID (deaths + earlier retirements + people improving their skills and moving up into better jobs + people who left jobs to start a small business). He was advocating for this increase to bolster the service/production/transport sectors...

I don't know who Ritholtz is but he sounds smart

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I don't know who Ritholtz is but he sounds smart

'The Big Picture' a blog about macroeconomics type stuff...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I don't know who Ritholtz is but he sounds smart

Covid deaths are why there are unfilled jobs out there? I just looked up covid deaths by age, data i saw said that 70% of all covid deaths were for americans age 70 and older. how many were working at the kinds of jobs that are um- filled today?

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Covid deaths are why there are unfilled jobs out there? I just looked up covid deaths by age, data i saw said that 70% of all covid deaths were for americans age 70 and older. how many were working at the kinds of jobs that are um- filled today?

1.05 million officially * 30% = 315,000 people.
Plus all the other factors listed, no one said it was the ONLY factor, it was A factor.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

1.05 million officially * 30% = 315,000 people.
Plus all the other factors listed, no one said it was the ONLY factor, it was A factor.

obviously a cause. Who knows to what degree.

Bryan, do you think it’s fair that southern border states have to bear the burden caused by people in DC choosing not to secure the border? isnt border security a national issue? why is it unfair for TX and AZ to expect that all 50 states take a proportionate share of illegals? i really don’t see what that’s not fair and logical.

i respect what you say and is he curious to see your take on that one aspect of this. Do border states have all the responsibility due to their bad luck of being in the border? Or do all 50 states share the responsibility?

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i respect what you say and is he curious to see your take on that one aspect of this. Do border states have all the responsibility due to their bad luck of being in the border? Or do all 50 states share the responsibility?

Yes, they do share responsibility. There is no easy fix. Busing them (or flying) for a political stunt to various liberal states with no infrastructure or plan is not the answer, however.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Covid deaths are why there are unfilled jobs out there? I just looked up covid deaths by age, data i saw said that 70% of all covid deaths were for americans age 70 and older. how many were working at the kinds of jobs that are um- filled today?

Why do I care?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Why do I care?

Well, you said it was "smart" when someone else posted that covoid deaths are a reason why there are a huge number of unfilled jobs. I don't see data to support that, and the demographics of covid deaths suggest that covid deaths aren't likely a big reason why. Getting people addicted to generous unemployment benefits may have been a larger contributor. But I doubt you care bout that either, because it doesn't serve liberalism.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Well, you said it was "smart" when someone else posted that covoid deaths are a reason why there are a huge number of unfilled jobs. I don't see data to support that, and the demographics of covid deaths suggest that covid deaths aren't likely a big reason why. Getting people addicted to generous unemployment benefits may have been a larger contributor. But I doubt you care bout that either, because it doesn't serve liberalism.

I always said you have horrible reading comprehension.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Well, you said it was "smart" when someone else posted that covoid deaths are a reason why there are a huge number of unfilled jobs. That is not what I meant.
I don't see data to support that, and the demographics of covid deaths suggest that covid deaths aren't likely a big reason why. Getting people addicted to generous unemployment benefits may have been a larger contributor. But I doubt you care bout that either, because it doesn't serve liberalism.How would you know what I care about. You sound like an idiot when you post things like that.

And you are wrong about unemployment benefits. It just caused pain to those receiving the benefits - which given the conserv. states track record appears to be what was intended.

State governors, largely Republicans, said the federal funds were keeping recipients from looking for jobs, making it harder for businesses to hire and holding back the economic recovery.

However, Census Bureau data suggests recipients didn’t rush to find jobs in the weeks following the first batch of state withdrawals, according to Arindrajit Dube, an economics professor at the University of Massachusetts Amherst.

Specifically, the share of adults receiving unemployment benefits fell sharply (by 2.2 percentage points) in the dozen states that cut federal funding on June 12 or 19, according to Dube. That translates to a 60% reduction in unemployment rolls in those states, he said.

But there wasn’t a corresponding increase in employment among this group — in fact, the share of adults with a job fell by 1.4 percentage points over the same period, according to Dube. (Employment rose by 0.2 percentage points in states that didn’t end the pandemic benefits.)

Together, the data shows there wasn’t an immediate job boost following the cuts, Dube said.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

No other country is as rich as we are with millions of poor bordering us.

We should increase legal immigration drastically. Now would be a good time to give extra consideration to those Russ./ukr scientist/bus. owners.

we are rich. doesn’t mean there aren’t limits. Why did chicago mayor Lightfoot take the illegals from Texas and ship them all to the suburbs? why wasn’t she happy to build houses for them and put them in her schools? Because talk is cheap. But caring for a meaningful number if unskilled immigrants who don’t speak the language, is extremely expensive.

The army told soldiers this week that they should
apply for food stamps because of inflation. That happened, I’m not making that up. How about we fix that before we spend billions on people who came here illegally, and before we spend a trillion forgiving student loans, including for wealthy families making $250k.

Seal up the border tight. Then increase legal immigration.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

we are rich. doesn’t mean there aren’t limits. Why did chicago mayor Lightfoot take the illegals from Texas and ship them all to the suburbs? why wasn’t she happy to build houses for them and put them in her schools? Because talk is cheap. But caring for a meaningful number if unskilled immigrants who don’t speak the language, is extremely expensive.

The army told soldiers this week that they should
apply for food stamps because of inflation. That happened, I’m not making that up. How about we fix that before we spend billions on people who came here illegally, and before we spend a trillion forgiving student loans, including for wealthy families making $250k.

Seal up the border tight. Then increase legal immigration.

Young soldiers have been on food stamps for ever it’s nothing new look up e4 pay and try to Raise a family of 3 on it


How about we fix that before we spend billions on people who came here illegally,

Yep the illegals get welfare another republican lie


Still waiting on what’s changed on the border .

What happened to Trumps wall

And name a policy change made by Biden that opened the border

Just more of the same invasion and we have open boarders more gop lies


Trump slashes aid to Central America over migrants


Trump's plan to cut aid to Central America could push more migrants to come to US

Cutting aid to Central America could fuel desperate conditions that drive immigrants to the United States’ southern border.

Yep we are seeing 1st hand classic republicans making choices just to look good in the next election cycle.

Don’t think for a minute republicans want to fix immigration just like Roe they chase the car but when they catch it. They have no idea after that


What’s also funny they actually think their policy’s slow immigration when Trump was in office . Covid and Trump axed legal immigration.
He did nothing to curb it on the border he did what’s being done sending them back ..

The majority of immigrants being shipped around by Ron 4 wheels crossed at a legal crossing and applied for asylum .. and are being processed by the LAW . That congress refuses to fix
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Still waiting on what’s changed on the border .


Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

How about way more people crossing, way more fentanyl overdoses killing Americans?

You aren't aware of anything different at the border today, compared to 2 years ago, seriously?

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

How about way more people crossing, way more fentanyl overdoses killing Americans?

You aren't aware of anything different at the border today, compared to 2 years ago, seriously?

Jim your being suckered again by your conservatives sources

Currently, China remains the primary source of fentanyl and fentanyl-related substances trafficked through international mail and express consignment operations environment, as well as the main source for all fentanyl-related substances trafficked into the United States. Seizures of fentanyl sourced from China

Not Mexico

And how about some personal responsibility don’t take illegal drugs and maybe you won’t die from a Fentanyl overdose

So you can’t answer what changed via physical and policy on the border .. the only thing that change is the volume of people coming to the US for a better life.. not sure why that offends people


It’s funny Martha’s Vineyard depends on immigration to run all the summer business via

H-2A and H-2B visas are for seasonal, or peak load, temporary workers in an agriculture (H-2A) or non-agricultural (H-2B) setting. Generally, these do not extend beyond a year.

Which Trump and Republicans supported Trump administration nearly doubles H-2B guest visa program, which brings many Mexican workers
In 2019

Then Trump signs order freezing visas for foreign workers through the end of the year in 2020


Like I said Republicans have ZERO intentions of trying to fix the border issue .. they think it can be closed It’s the same simple fantasy that having more drilling permits will lower gas prices

The Republican base is so uninformed. It’s amazing and Republicans leaders use it to their advantage daily

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim your being suckered again by your conservatives sources

Currently, China remains the primary source of fentanyl and fentanyl-related substances trafficked through international mail and express consignment operations environment, as well as the main source for all fentanyl-related substances trafficked into the United States. Seizures of fentanyl sourced from China

Not Mexico

And how about some personal responsibility don’t take illegal drugs and maybe you won’t die from a Fentanyl overdose

So you can’t answer what changed via physical and policy on the border .. the only thing that change is the volume of people coming to the US for a better life.. not sure why that offends people


It’s funny Martha’s Vineyard depends on immigration to run all the summer business via

H-2A and H-2B visas are for seasonal, or peak load, temporary workers in an agriculture (H-2A) or non-agricultural (H-2B) setting. Generally, these do not extend beyond a year.

Which Trump and Republicans supported Trump administration nearly doubles H-2B guest visa program, which brings many Mexican workers
In 2019

Then Trump signs order freezing visas for foreign workers through the end of the year in 2020


Like I said Republicans have ZERO intentions of trying to fix the border issue .. they think it can be closed It’s the same simple fantasy that having more drilling permits will lower gas prices

The Republican base is so uninformed. It’s amazing and Republicans leaders use it to their advantage daily

martha’s vineyard depends on legal, temporary immigration.

You see no difference between that and millions and millions of them living here, having lots of kids, requiring immense services

My god.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

martha’s vineyard depends on legal, temporary immigration.

You see no difference between that and millions and millions of them living here, having lots of kids, requiring immense services

My god.

Those people are here legally that’s why the were on that flight .

Also my larger point migration and migrant workers do not strike fear on the island of 15 k people