If the gop win the midterms

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

He refused
To admit fraud played no part in Biden’s win

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81,282,916 votes for the worst candidate in American presidential history....yeah, probably nothing to see there

maybe we should waterboard him until he admits what you want him to admit....I'm sure we could justify it under "threat to democracy"

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by scottw

81,282,916 votes for the worst candidate in American presidential history....yeah, probably nothing to see there

74,223,369 for a dreadful incumbent POTUS candidate, so yea, just the choice between rock and hard place + a lot of anti-trump enthusiasm driving people to the polls....

[scottw]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

driving people to the polls....

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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

74,223,369 for a dreadful incumbent POTUS candidate, so yea, just the choice between rock and hard place + a lot of anti-trump enthusiasm driving people to the polls....

trump is a dreadful
human being without question.

his policies? he broke the record in the pill gallup does every 4 years during presidential elections, where they ask americans if they feel better off after 4 years of the incumbent. In the summer of 2020, at the height of the pandemic, more
americans said they were better off after 4 years of trump, than for
any other president in the history of the poll.

America hated trump. But they liked his policies. This is why the left hates and is terrified of Desantis. The upside of trump without the downside ( very few have trumps downside).
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

trump is a dreadful
human being without question.


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if you think about it, it actually worked out pretty good,....if trump had won, democrats would still be burning down cities and destroying innocent people's lives in their anger....with dark brandon pulling out the most remarkable victory of all time...we just got a couple hours of mayhem at the Capitol

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

trump is a dreadful
human being without question.

his policies? he broke the record in the pill gallup does every 4 years during presidential elections, where they ask americans if they feel better off after 4 years of the incumbent. In the summer of 2020, at the height of the pandemic, more
americans said they were better off after 4 years of trump, than for
any other president in the history of the poll.

America hated trump. But they liked his policies. This is why the left hates and is terrified of Desantis. The upside of trump without the downside ( very few have trumps downside).
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You are right. That poll stated that, but the same time, Gallup had his approval rating at 44%.

Trump rode in on a wave of good stock market trends (which continued), good unemployment trends (which continued) and a host of other economic indicators. I think most Americans would say they were better off economically, but most also (correctly) probably didn't attribute to Trump.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Gallup had his approval rating at 44%.

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Pete, MSNBC,CNN,ABC,CBS,NBC,NPR,NYTIMES,WASHPO..etc...et c........
dedicated 24 hours a day/7days a week for I guess six plus years now telling America how and why to hate trump(some true, much untrue)......probably not reflected in any of the polls.....

practically a "cult" of hate.....

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

You are right. That poll stated that, but the same time, Gallup had his approval rating at 44%.

Trump rode in on a wave of good stock market trends (which continued), good unemployment trends (which continued) and a host of other economic indicators. I think most Americans would say they were better off economically, but most also (correctly) probably didn't attribute to Trump.

correct. you’re proving my point, not refuting it. america liked his policies, they just hated him
personally.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

You are right. That poll stated that, but the same time, Gallup had his approval rating at 44%.

Trump rode in on a wave of good stock market trends (which continued), good unemployment trends (which continued) and a host of other economic indicators. I think most Americans would say they were better off economically, but most also (correctly) probably didn't attribute to Trump.

ok. so trump didnt do anything different with the economy , he just sat back and rode the obama wave? THATS what you’re saying?

He didn’t cut personal taxes, annihilate corporate income taxes, eliminate what he thought were wasteful regulations, he didn’t fund economic opportunity zones in struggling urban areas, he didn’t incentivize companies to bring back massive sums of cash that were overseas? he didn’tdo any of that?

Et tu Bryan? Et tu? I thought you were the one single lefty here who was pretty honest, even about things that didn’t specifically serve your agenda.

Some scientist you are.

Here’s what happened. Trump obviously inherited a roaring economy. Then he did the things he did, which had the effect of pouring gasoline on the economic fire. Whether you happen to like it or not, that’s what happened. He did things very differently from obama, and it worked until we voluntarily chose to shut the economy down.

TDS claims another.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

ok. so trump didnt do anything different with the economy , he just sat back and rode the obama wave?

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this is accurate....and now Biden is doing all these great things that actually flowed from obama, somehow survived trump..... and now Americans are happier than ever again...lalalala....if we can just prevent the fascists from destroying our democracy

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Et tu Bryan? Et tu? I thought you were the one single lefty here who was pretty honest, even about things that didn’t specifically serve your agenda.

Some scientist you are.

TDS claims another.
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I think this is why you don't have any friends on this site (maybe you can go fishing w/Scott).

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I think this is why you don't have any friends ....

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[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I think this is why you don't have any friends on this site (maybe you can go fishing w/Scott).

I'd just note that it's the resident leftists here that routinely resort to expletive laced rants, hyperbolic name calling and....didn't internet tough guy Paul try to fight someone here fairly recently?....too funny....

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I think this is why you don't have any friends on this site (maybe you can go fishing w/Scott).

you say things like this when you're out of intellectual ammo Paul, which happens to you quite frequently.

Bryan was (is?) literally the only liberal here capable of showing intellectual honesty. Literally the only one. But when someone says that employees don't benefit when american companies are much more profitable, that is someone who is chugging the Kool Aid. Only 2 kinds of people can say that. Either one has absolutely no clue what happens at most American companies, or one is willing to flat out lie when the truth doesn't serve their political agenda. If there's a third alternative, sorry but I don't know what it is. I was disappointed to hear him say that, and that's a compliment to him, not an insult. We expect precisely that from the rest, because that's all you do.

[RIROCKHOUND]

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

ok. so trump did t do anything different with the coming, he just ride the obama wave? THATS what you’re saying? No, I am saying the wave was there, as you say at the end, he juiced it, but he didn't create it

He didn’t cut personal taxes Agree, which is why many said they are better off economically, agree, this did reduce takes on many people. I paid less taxes those years , annihilate corporate income taxes which many reviews said did nothing in the trickle down sense and corporations were holding the cash, eliminate what he thought were wasteful regulations many of which were environmentally not favorable and many of us (big one for me) would oppose, he didn’t find economic opportunity zones i. struggling urban areas, did you see the PBS piece on this last year? Good concept, didnt work nearly as intended, many big investors made a lot of money though. he didn’t incentivize companies to bring back massive sums of cash that weren’t worse as? WSJ review would say this was not anywhere near what Trump claimed it would be/was. It trickled in but well less than claimed. Oversold but not a full negative

Et tu Bryan? Et tu? I thought you were the one single lefty here who was pretty honest, even about things that didn’t specifically serve his agenda. Sorry my quick response didn't offer a point by point breakdown of Trumps policies on a fishing message board


Here’s what happened. Trump obviously inherited a roaring economy. Then he did the things he did, which had the effect of pouring gasoline on the economic fire. Whether you happen to like it or not, that’s what happened. No #^&#^&#^&#^&. The gasoline is a good analogy. It burned hot and fast, even without COVID there would have been a marked downside to his bell curve after all that. He did things very differently from obama, and it worked until we voluntarily chose to shut the economy down. In 2019 there was a study that 75% of economists thought we were due for by 2021. Not saying economists know what is coming, but they clearly recognized the 10+ year economic wave had to break eventually, even without COVID


TDS claims another.
Some scientist you are.

#^&#^&#^&#^& off with the insults. I didn't come at you with 'some actuary you are' This could have been a good discussion and you turn it to this. I mostly stay out of this cesspool circle jerk you guys engage in daily, made the mistake of turning it on because it was raining and didn't walk the dog before work... My mistake. Glad leach block will engage and lock me out of these for the rest of the work day :-) Have a good day everyone.

[Jim in CT]

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

#^&#^&#^&#^& off with the insults. I didn't come at you with 'some actuary you are' This could have been a good discussion and you turn it to this. I mostly stay out of this cesspool circle jerk you guys engage in daily, made the mistake of turning it on because it was raining and didn't walk the dog before work... My mistake. Glad leach block will engage and lock me out of these for the rest of the work day :-) Have a good day everyone.

"annihilate corporate income taxes which many reviews said did nothing in the trickle down sense and corporations were holding the cash"

And you just accept that? You accept it when your side says that employees aren't better off when companies can keep way more of their profits? Employees aren't better off when their companies are instantly much more valuable? Companies aren't more likely to invest in growth when the math of a cost-benefit analysis changes, because companies can keep 79% of profit instead of 65%? You really believe that?

I got news for you and your Komrades, Bryan. Not all companies are sinister and evil. I've worked for Liberty Mutual, Aetna, Travelers, and The Hartford, all massive companies. All treated their employees fairly (some were better than others), all gave a lot of money and time to local communities, all were good corporate citizens. They weren't charitable organizations to be sure, but they weren't diabolical as the Galactic Empire either. And even though I now work in a cubicle and not a corner office, I know I'm far, far better off when my company makes more money, than I am when it makes less money. The more money my company makes, the better off I am.

When Paul, Pete, Wayne, Spence imply otherwise, it's funny to me. It's sad to me that you'd say something so unbelievably and profoundly stupid, just for partisan political reasons.

Not every cent of extra profit went to the rank and file. Nor should it. The rank and file didn't put up their own capital to start the company, taking incredible risk. But some of that extra money obviously makes its way to the rank and file, some obviously gets invested in growth, meaning more jobs.

Just because Joy Behar, or even Paul Krugman say something Brian, doesn't mean it's true.

Gimme an effing break.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

I didn't come at you with 'some actuary you are'

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that's spence's line....

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

trump is a dreadful
human being without question.

his policies? he broke the record in the pill gallup does every 4 years during presidential elections, where they ask americans if they feel better off after 4 years of the incumbent. In the summer of 2020, at the height of the pandemic, more
americans said they were better off after 4 years of trump, than for
any other president in the history of the poll.

America hated trump. But they liked his policies. This is why the left hates and is terrified of Desantis. The upside of trump without the downside ( very few have trumps downside).
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America hated trump. But they liked his policies.

No they didn’t just another right wing fantasy
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

America hated trump. But they liked his policies.

No they didn’t just another right wing fantasy
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fine. then explain why he has the all-time record in that gallup poll. otherwise you have no idea why you’re saying what you’re saying.


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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

America hated trump. But they liked his policies.

No they didn’t just another right wing fantasy
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how long had liberals been asking for criminal justice reform? and why didn’t obama deliver it when the democrats controlled both the house and the senate?

It took Trump to do it. That was one policy i personally hated ( i don’t think high level drug dealers are ever non violent criminals), but he even delivered for the left. not that you could ever admit it.

he knew how to deliver. He’s just hard wired to be a vindictive, lying, narcissistic baby.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by scottw

81,282,916 votes for the worst candidate in American presidential history....yeah, probably nothing to see there

maybe we should waterboard him until he admits what you want him to admit....I'm sure we could justify it under "threat to democracy"

Wow you are farther down the rabbit hole than I thought. Seek help
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