If the gop win the midterms

[Pete F.]

So for those who need reminding:
In the last few WEEKS, the GQP has said f you to:
- Women
- Members of the LGBTQIA+ community
- Veterans
- Mother Earth
- School children (some of whom will soon enough be the product of forced births)

Simultaneously, it has hugged:
- Guns
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

So for those who need reminding:
In the last few WEEKS, the GQP has said f you to:
- Women
- Members of the LGBTQIA+ community
- Veterans
- Mother Earth
- School children (some of whom will soon enough be the product of forced births)

Simultaneously, it has hugged:
- Guns
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if you’re an unborn child, forced birth is better than abortion. a whole lot better.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

if you’re an unborn child, forced birth is better than abortion. a whole lot better.
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A national abortion ban would result in a 24% increase in deaths for all women and a 39% increase in deaths for non-Hispanic Black women. There is nothing pro-life about Republicans’ forced-birth movement.

Pregnancy is 14 times more likely to result in a woman’s death than an abortion; and the states outlawing abortion right now already have the highest rates of infant and maternal mortality due to high levels of poverty, limited access to healthcare, and refusal to expand Medicaid.

Forced-birth laws will not save any lives. They will just kill more women and create ripple effects of trauma and devastation throughout society. None of this is about life. The same people pushing forced birth laws also want to outlaw contraception and sex education.

The first sentence of the 1st Amendment states that no law will be made respecting an establishment of religion. SCOTUS’ overturning of Roe was flagrantly unconstitutional and this court of religious ideologues has absolutely zero legitimacy.

Women will not tolerate this; nor should they. The issue isn’t when life or conception begins. It’s who should make decisions about women’s bodies: women themselves or governments. And there is no debate. Women should make these decisions for themselves. Not the government.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

A national abortion ban would result in a 24% increase in deaths for all women and a 39% increase in deaths for non-Hispanic Black women. There is nothing pro-life about Republicans’ forced-birth movement.

Pregnancy is 14 times more likely to result in a woman’s death than an abortion; and the states outlawing abortion right now already have the highest rates of infant and maternal mortality due to high levels of poverty, limited access to healthcare, and refusal to expand Medicaid.

Forced-birth laws will not save any lives. They will just kill more women and create ripple effects of trauma and devastation throughout society. None of this is about life. The same people pushing forced birth laws also want to outlaw contraception and sex education.

The first sentence of the 1st Amendment states that no law will be made respecting an establishment of religion. SCOTUS’ overturning of Roe was flagrantly unconstitutional and this court of religious ideologues has absolutely zero legitimacy.

Women will not tolerate this; nor should they. The issue isn’t when life or conception begins. It’s who should make decisions about women’s bodies: women themselves or governments. And there is no debate. Women should make these decisions for themselves. Not the government.
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you dodged my question naturally. when you were an unborn child, would
you prefer forced birth or abortion.

If there were a nationwide abortion ban, how many babies’ lives would be saved?
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you dodged my question naturally. when you were an unborn child, would
you prefer forced birth or abortion.

If there were a nationwide abortion ban, how many babies’ lives would be saved?
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Silly troll
I don’t believe life starts at conception, so zero
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Forced-birth laws will not save any lives.

The first sentence of the 1st Amendment states that no law will be made respecting an establishment of religion.
The issue isn’t when life or conception begins.
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( 1 it will save a million lives a year.

(2) believing abortion is a state issue, is not part of any religion that i know of.

(3) the question of when life begins, is literally all that matters, because everyone, including you, are ok with laws that prevent women from using their bodies in a way that hurts someone else! you and i both agree on that. so the only question, is when the baby constitutes someone else.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

So for those who need reminding:
In the last few WEEKS, the GQP has said f you to:
- Women
- Members of the LGBTQIA+ community
- Veterans
- Mother Earth
- School children (some of whom will soon enough be the product of forced births)

Simultaneously, it has hugged:
- Guns
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you just need to have a little honesty and empathy and heart.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

you just need to have a little honesty and empathy and heart.
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wel we ( including the most middle of the road guy here) proved you were lying about what the GOP did to “vets”, so you have zero credibility on the other issues.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

wel we ( including the most middle of the road guy here) proved you were lying about what the GOP did to “vets”, so you have zero credibility on the other issues.
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Who is the most middle of the road here?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Who is the most middle of the road here?

TDF has agreed with, and disagreed with, everybody.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

TDF has agreed with, and disagreed with, everybody.
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I have never seen that. He usually just comments on people from the left's posts.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I have never seen that. He usually just comments on people from the left's posts.

then what you see, is less than accurate.

He’s disagreed with me many times. And he’s had a valid point every single time he does. so instead of insulting him, pergaps reflect on why he’s saying what he’s saying.

in this case, the gop did not vote against helping vets. they voted against the dems’ attempt to exploit a bill helping vets, by sneaking in a budgetary gimmick. that’s what happened. but not one of you can say it.

if the dems propose a clean bill with no gimmicks and the gop votes against that, then i’ll be the first one to say they voted against vets.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I have never seen that. He usually just comments on people from the left's posts.

because they are the most obnoxious

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

wel we ( including the most middle of the road guy here) proved you were lying about what the GOP did to “vets”, so you have zero credibility on the other issues.
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VA Secretary Denis McDonough says Republican Senators’ new proposed changes to the PACT Act would result in rationing care to sick veterans; the VA could only spend so much per year, regardless of need, and would only treat vets for 10 years, again, regardless of need.

The same people helped Trump add 7.8 TRILLION to the debt.
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