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		|  07-19-2022, 03:15 PM | #1 |  
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				 | Red states have lower taxes but Blue states are better in almost every other category.  I wonder how much worse off those red states would be in there wasn't a transfer of wealth from the blue states?
 After the 2016 election, Mark Muro, the policy director of the Brookings Institution’s Metropolitan Policy Project, found that the 472 counties Hillary Clinton won produced 64% of the country’s economic output, while the 2,584 counties Donald Trump won contributed just 36%. That was a significant jump from the 2000 election, when the blue-red county economic split was 54% to 46%. Muro dubbed this divide “high-output America” vs. “low-output America.”
 Last year, after Biden defeated Trump, Muro looked again and found that the economic output divide has grown even more pronounced. The 520 counties Biden won account for fully 71% of U.S. gross domestic product, while the 2,564 that Trump carried produced just 29%. In other words, America’s economic engine is bluer than ever.
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		|  07-19-2022, 03:33 PM | #2 |  
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					Originally Posted by PaulS  Red states have lower taxes but Blue states are better in almost every other category.  I wonder how much worse off those red states would be in there wasn't a transfer of wealth from the blue states?
 After the 2016 election, Mark Muro, the policy director of the Brookings Institution’s Metropolitan Policy Project, found that the 472 counties Hillary Clinton won produced 64% of the country’s economic output, while the 2,584 counties Donald Trump won contributed just 36%. That was a significant jump from the 2000 election, when the blue-red county economic split was 54% to 46%. Muro dubbed this divide “high-output America” vs. “low-output America.”
 Last year, after Biden defeated Trump, Muro looked again and found that the economic output divide has grown even more pronounced. The 520 counties Biden won account for fully 71% of U.S. gross domestic product, while the 2,564 that Trump carried produced just 29%. In other words, America’s economic engine is bluer than ever.
 |  if blue states are better in ways that people actually cared about, people 
would be moving to blue states instead of fleeing them.  
 
You have self-serving theory.  I have hard,,irrefutable, meaningful facts. 
 
You’re right, the wealthy are almost all democrat now. That changed very quickly.  When the wealthy were all conservative,,liberals said it was bad to cater to the rich.  all of. sudden it’s a good thing. 
 
Lower income working people 
loved trump.  Loved  him.  You obviously think that’s  a bad thing.  which seems elitist. but whatever.
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		|  07-19-2022, 03:39 PM | #3 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  if blue states are better in ways that people actually cared about, peoplewould be moving to blue states instead of fleeing them.
 
 You have self-serving theory.  I have hard,,irrefutable, meaningful facts.
 
 You’re right, the wealthy are almost all democrat now. That changed very quickly.  When the wealthy were all conservative,,liberals said it was bad to cater to the rich.  all of. sudden it’s a good thing.
 
 Lower income working people
 loved trump.  Loved  him.  You obviously think that’s  a bad thing.  which seems elitist. but whatever.
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 |  In addition to retirees it is prob. the people who can't compete in the blues states who are moving.
 
I think lower income people loved Trump bc he talked and acted like a  foul mouthed goon who didn't care who he insulted.  I guess that is elitist. |  
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		|  07-19-2022, 04:18 PM | #4 |  
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				 | [QUOTE=PaulS;1229567]In addition to retirees it is prob. the people who can't compete in the blues states who are moving.
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 Maybe the are sick of elitists in skinny 👖
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		|  07-19-2022, 04:24 PM | #5 |  
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					Originally Posted by PaulS  In addition to retirees it is prob. the people who can't compete in the blues states who are moving.
 I think lower income people loved Trump bc he talked and acted like a  foul mouthed goon who didn't care who he insulted.  I guess that is elitist.
 |  Can’t debate Jim on that one, he has hung his hat on people moving in droves to red states.  The problem is he just doesn’t understand it’s not about politics.  I’d love to move to FL for half the year, it’s not about politics, tax rates, it’s about marine life, fishing, atmosphere and warmth in the winter.  Hey Jim if FL, which you love to use as an example, suddenly was transported next to Montana, would we me moving there in droves? |  
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		|  07-19-2022, 04:43 PM | #6 |  
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					Originally Posted by Got Stripers  Hey Jim if FL, which you love to use as an example, suddenly was transported next to Montana, would we me moving there in droves?
 |  Montana is apparently experiencing large population growth.
 
Washington Post. Population booms are overwhelming schools in Montana 
The rapid growth in and around Bozeman, Mont., threatens the reputation — and sustainability — of its public schools
 
By Neal Morton 
May 13, 2022 
 
The 2021 population estimates indicate that migration was by far the most significant population driver for Montana in the year following the 2020 census. Without it, Montana's population would have shrunk,
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		|  07-19-2022, 04:49 PM | #7 |  
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					Originally Posted by scottw  Montana is apparently experiencing large population growth.
 
 Washington Post. Population booms are overwhelming schools in Montana
 The rapid growth in and around Bozeman, Mont., threatens the reputation — and sustainability — of its public schools
 
 By Neal Morton
 May 13, 2022
 
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 |  Perfect place for you and Jim, check in once in a while and don’t freeze during the winter. |  
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		|  07-19-2022, 04:50 PM | #8 |  
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					Originally Posted by Got Stripers  Perfect place for you and Jim, check in once in a while and don’t freeze during the winter. |  Brilliant response….
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		|  07-19-2022, 06:03 PM | #9 |  
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					Originally Posted by Got Stripers  Can’t debate Jim on that one, he has hung his hat on people moving in droves to red states.  The problem is he just doesn’t understand it’s not about politics.  I’d love to move to FL for half the year, it’s not about politics, tax rates, it’s about marine life, fishing, atmosphere and warmth in the winter.  Hey Jim if FL, which you love to use as an example, suddenly was transported next to Montana, would we me moving there in droves? |  so it’s all the losers leaving red states.  i’m sure that’s the case. 
 
if it’s not politically related, how come no one lives to southern CA, which also has warmth and water?
 
I’ll wait for your response.  Can’t wait.  
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		|  07-19-2022, 06:05 PM | #10 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  so it’s all the losers leaving red states.
 
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		|  07-19-2022, 06:24 PM | #11 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  so it’s all the losers leaving red states.  i’m sure that’s the case. 
 if it’s not politically related, how come no one lives to southern CA, which also has warmth and water?
 
 I’ll wait for your response.  Can’t wait.
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Keep up the fantasy’s
 
The Government controls how much oil is pumped 
 
And everyone moving to Florida because it’s political 
 
And no one is moving to Southern California 
 
You need to get out of your bubble it’s not healthy 
 
Ps when are you moving to your conservatives utopia Florida?
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		|  07-19-2022, 06:26 PM | #12 |  
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				 | you know you are bad when...
 
 A new poll conducted by SSRS and released yesterday by CNN puts Joe Biden’s approval rating at a dismal 38 per cent. To put that in perspective, the president’s numbers are worse than every other president since the second half of the 20th century, even clocking in one point lower than Donald Trump around July 2018.
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		|  07-19-2022, 06:48 PM | #13 |  
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					Originally Posted by wdmso  Keep up the fantasy’s
 The Government controls how much oil is pumped
 
 And everyone moving to Florida because it’s political
 
 And no one is moving to Southern California
 
 You need to get out of your bubble it’s not healthy
 
 Ps when are you moving to your conservatives utopia Florida?
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 |  the government has some impact on oil.  Every sane person knows this. 
 
If people are only moving to FL because of the weather and water ( and not because of politics, which drives cost), why aren’t they moving to  sourhern CA?  are you saying they ARE moving to southern CA in big numbers?
 
Can’t even tell what you’re saying.  We can only tell it’s gibberish. 
 
You’re getting scared about 2022 and it shows. 
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		|  10-09-2022, 08:16 AM | #14 |  
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					Originally Posted by wdmso  Keep up the fantasy’s
 The Government controls how much oil is pumped
 
 And everyone moving to Florida because it’s political
 
 And no one is moving to Southern California
 
 You need to get out of your bubble it’s not healthy
 
 Ps when are you moving to your conservatives utopia Florida?
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 |  i never said everyone is moving to florida because of politics. But you desperately want to believe that politics has nothing to do with it.  It’s absurd.  Look at the states that people are fleeing,,loom at the states people are flocking to, and please tell us what the commonality is.  What’s the commonality? |  
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		|  10-21-2022, 12:55 PM | #15 |  
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					Originally Posted by wdmso  Keep up the fantasy’s
 The Government controls how much oil is pumped
 
 And everyone moving to Florida because it’s political
 
 And no one is moving to Southern California
 
 You need to get out of your bubble it’s not healthy
 
 Ps when are you moving to your conservatives utopia Florida?
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 |  the government plays a role in determining how  much oil 
is pumped. it’s not a free for all.  
 
Many people are moving to Fl for low taxes. That is political.
 
You deny these two obvious truths, and claim i live in fantasy land. 
 
I’m stuck in CT because we take care of my parents who’d he screwed if we left. |  
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