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		|  08-04-2022, 07:50 AM | #1 |  
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				 | Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) has suggested that Social Security and Medicare be eliminated as federal entitlement programs, and that they should instead become programs approved by Congress on an annual basis as discretionary spending.
 
 And GOP supporters  love to say it won’t happen
 
 
 Then when it’s said out loud by those they elect
 
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		|  08-04-2022, 08:27 AM | #2 |  
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				 | Go easy on the Repub. today.  Cracker barrel added an impossible sausage to their menu and their all in a tizzy. |  
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		|  08-04-2022, 09:02 AM | #3 |  
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				 | US primaries: Rusty Bowers, who defied Trump, loses re-election bid
 And the GOP base voters again putting man before country  and party and punishing truth honesty and integrity .
 
 All while flying American flags yelling Freedom!
 
 It’s amazing and terribly sad to watch
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				 | Cheney challenger Hageman takes firm stance on 2020: ‘The election was rigged’
 the top primary challenger to Rep. Liz Cheney (R) for Wyoming’s lone House seat, said on Wednesday that the 2020 presidential election was “rigged” against former President Trump, her firmest public stance on the election yet.
 
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		|  08-05-2022, 08:40 AM | #5 |  
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				 | Boom. June payrolls added 528,000 jobs — more than *double* estimates of 250,000 new jobs. Unemployment rate drops to 3.5 from 3.6%.
 The labor market shows no signs of cooling just yet.
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		|  08-05-2022, 08:51 AM | #6 |  
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					Originally Posted by Pete F.  Boom. June payrolls added 528,000 jobs — more than *double* estimates of 250,000 new jobs. Unemployment rate drops to 3.5 from 3.6%.
 The labor market shows no signs of cooling just yet.
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		|  08-05-2022, 09:39 AM | #7 |  
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				 | For months now, the Governors of Texas and Arizona have been sending charter buses full of migrants and refugees to Washington D.C.'s Union Station, just a few blocks from the Capitol Building. 
Texas Governor Greg Abbott says he started sending the buses to D.C. because the Biden administration attempted to lift the pandemic-era emergency Title 42 order that allowed the U.S. to deny migrants entry.
 
yet title 42 hasn't been lifted 
 
According to Gov. Abbott's office, more than 6,100 migrants have been bused to D.C. from Texas alone    and he's proud of that and showing his base he's owing the libs 
Gov. Abbott's plan to bus migrants to D.C. "political theater". and Arizona Governor Doug Ducey playing along  
what's next tattooed  numbers .. 
So the above is no great surprise seeing   Texas already laid out the red carpet  for like minded Orban 
 
Gov. Greg Abbott and Hungarian Prime Minister headline first day of conservative conference in Dallas
 
But Orban has found defenders among prominent American conservatives Tucker Carlson and Ohio Senate candidate J.D. Vance. 
Trump called Orban his “friend” and said he valued his perspective. “Few people know as much about what is going on in the world today,” Trump said.
 
Matt Schlapp, who leads the American Conservative Union that organizes CPAC, has defended Orban’s invitation in the name of free speech.
 
The crowd booed when Orban brought up George Soros,  what a surprise 
He concluded by looking to elections that will be held in both the United States and European Union in 2024.
 
“These two locations will define the two fronts in the battle being fought for Western civilization,” Orban said. “Today we hold neither of them yet. We need both. You have two years to get ready.”
 
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		|  08-07-2022, 06:21 AM | #8 |  
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					Originally Posted by Pete F.  Boom. June payrolls added 528,000 jobs — more than *double* estimates of 250,000 new jobs. Unemployment rate drops to 3.5 from 3.6%.
 
 The labor market shows no signs of cooling just yet.
 
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"Much of the press coverage was similarly straight out of the Biden White House’s hymnal. But a closer look at the numbers suggests why a lot of workers are not feeling so thrilled right now. Comparing the seasonally adjusted numbers for July 2022 with the previous month, we see:
 
71,000 fewer people working full-time jobs; 
384,000 more people working part-time jobs. There was an overall growth of 303,000 more people working part-time who would prefer full-time, driven by a growth of 331,000 more people in full-time jobs being cut back to part-time (what the report refers to as “slack” work); 
92,000 more people working multiple jobs; 
279,000 fewer people self-employed; and 
63,000 fewer people in the civilian labor force, after a decline of 353,000 in June. |  
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		|  08-07-2022, 06:40 AM | #9 |  
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				 | But….but….January 6thPosted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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					Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman  But….but….January 6thPosted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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Why should we dismiss it as you suggest?
 
We would all love to hear your detailed rationale . On the topic
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		|  08-07-2022, 12:03 PM | #11 |  
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					Originally Posted by wdmso  Why are you afraid of Jan 6th |  I’m not
 
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					Originally Posted by wdmso   Why should we dismiss it as you suggest? |  I didn’t 
 
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					Originally Posted by wdmso   We would all love to hear your detailed rationale . On the topicPosted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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		|  08-07-2022, 02:02 PM | #12 |  
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		|  08-07-2022, 02:21 PM | #13 |  
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		|  08-07-2022, 03:24 PM | #14 |  
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				 | Senate Republicans have just blocked the $35/month insulin price cap for Americans on private insurance from Democrats' spending bill.
 Here’s what happens when folks can’t afford insulin: they try to ration it. When that happens their sugars rise to levels where their cells, starved of glucose, switch to using ketones for intracellular energy. Their blood pH drops, they start breathing faster and faster to maintain a neutral pH. It’s unsustainable, the pH drops to 7.1, 6.9, 6.7… they become unresponsive, they have a seizure. If they’re lucky someone finds them and calls 911. They come to the ED where, because the high glucose is drawing fluid into the blood, they have peed out gallons of fluid. We slam them with fluids, bicarbonate, insulin once we know their potassium levels. They go to the ICU where care costs 10,000 dollars a day. They stay for days, weeks sometimes. Even, if you’re heartless enough to ignore the human cost, the “cost cost” of What we’re doing to diabetics is insane and stupid. It makes no sense. It’s inefficient. It costs more to fix DKA then it does to prevent them DKA. Way more.
 Easy medical decision. Easy moral decision. Easy economic decision. And yet…
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		|  08-07-2022, 04:08 PM | #15 |  
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					Originally Posted by Pete F.  What we’re doing to diabetics is insane and stupid.
 
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Although not everyone with type 2 diabetes is overweight, obesity and an inactive lifestyle are two of the most common causes of type 2 diabetes. These things are responsible for about 90% to 95% of diabetes cases in the United States. |  
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					Originally Posted by scottw  in most cases they did and continue to do it to themselves...
 Although not everyone with type 2 diabetes is overweight, obesity and an inactive lifestyle are two of the most common causes of type 2 diabetes. These things are responsible for about 90% to 95% of diabetes cases in the United States.
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So let’s punish them it’s their fault. ? So pay more for your insulin instead of healthy food.  Is that the conservatives position?   
 
Republicans blocked it for their donors and drug companies . over American citizens classic
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		|  08-08-2022, 02:28 AM | #17 |  
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 So let’s punish them it’s their fault. ? So pay more for your insulin instead of healthy food.  Is that the conservatives position?
 
 
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 |  how is this "punish" ?
 
"pay more for insulin instead of healthy food" is a huge assumption and probably not even close to reality
 
 "Is this the conservatives position" and as usually you invent stuff and try to ascribe it to someone to fit your narrative 
 
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		|  08-08-2022, 07:56 AM | #18 |  
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					Originally Posted by scottw  how is this "punish" ? 
"pay more for insulin instead of healthy food" is a huge assumption and probably not even close to reality
 
 "Is this the conservatives position" and as usually you invent stuff and try to ascribe it to someone to fit your narrative 
 
you should have gone with "so kill all the diabetics in the country and take their stuff"..."is this the conservatives position?"   |  First veterans now insulin users 
 
Other than they denied Biden a small win . who did they protect?   I doubt this added to the national deficit or added to inflation .
 
Yet republicans have complained about gas and oil taxes in the same bill   Even while Recent second-quarter earnings reports proffered eye-popping figures: BP posted second-quarter profits worth $8.5 billion, its biggest windfall in 14 years. ExxonMobil went one further — its $17.9 billion in net income was its largest-ever quarterly profit. U.S. company Chevron, London-based Shell and France’s TotalEnergies also recorded blockbuster results. Put together, these five major companies made $55 billion this past quarter, as hundreds of millions of people around the world bore the brunt of surging prices at the pump.
 
You claim most are doing it to themselves
 
I guess theirs many different ways you read that?  Other than assigned blame . 
 
Top state for diabetes , Red states and their gullible base will cheer we’re owning the libs 
 
1	wWest Virginia	15.7% 
2	BAlabama	15.0% 
3	YMississippi	14.6% 
4	RLouisiana	14.3% 
5	pTennessee	14.2% 
6	nSouth Carolina	13.6% 
7	CArkansas	13.2% 
8	QKentucky	13.1% 
9	jOklahoma	13.0% 
9	qTexas	13.0% 
11	HDelaware	12.7% 
11	aNorth Carolina	12.7%
 
Individual poverty increased the odds of having diabetes for both Whites and Blacks. Living in a poor neighborhood increased the odds of having diabetes for Blacks and poor Whites.
 
I know I made up buy insulin or buy healthier food   That’s never a choice 
 
The cost of insulin for patients with insurance ranges from $334 to $1,000 a month,  to 35.00 that’s huge 
 
And of course you can’t control how that savings will be used
 
I am sorry Scott that my narratives actual include facts 
 
And the facts are Diabetes are a cash cow for big pharma?  Aka donors 
 
Drug industry lobbyists viewed Republicans’ control of the Senate as critical to the industry’s interests.
 
top money getters. Republicans, like Sen. Mitch McConnell (Ky.) and Rep. Kevin McCarthy (Calif.) — the GOP leaders of the Senate and House, respectively — also ranked in the top 15 of all recipients.
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					Originally Posted by scottw  in most cases they did and continue to do it to themselves...
 Although not everyone with type 2 diabetes is overweight, obesity and an inactive lifestyle are two of the most common causes of type 2 diabetes. These things are responsible for about 90% to 95% of diabetes cases in the United States.
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 Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
 
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					Originally Posted by scottw  my comment was not political.... |  Look up ☝️
 
Even, if you’re heartless enough to ignore the human cost, the “cost cost” of What we’re doing to diabetics is insane and stupid. It makes no sense. It’s inefficient. It costs more to fix DKA then it does to prevent them DKA. Way more. 
Easy medical decision. Easy moral decision. Easy economic decision. And yet…
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 Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
 
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				 | If Republicans retake control of the House after the 2022 midterms, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., vows to bring in the intelligence officials who allegedly knew of Hunter Biden's shady foreign business deals.
 
 So now shady is being illegal?
 
 Guess due process won’t exist under Republicans
 
 That’s the mid term strategy
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				 | Truth or satire?
 Lindsey Graham on CSPAN: “ The Democrats are trying to attack us over this insulin thing. But next time you’re in a long line at the grocery, ask yourself: is it REALLY a good thing for more people to have life-saving medication? I thought liberals said we’re overpopulated.”
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				 | Myth: I will likely develop diabetes because I am overweight.
 Fact: It is true that excess weight increases your chance of having diabetes. However, many people who are overweight or obese never develop diabetes.
 
 Diabetes Is Not Your Fault
 Don’t blame yourself for developing type 2 diabetes, and don’t let anyone else blame you either. It is not caused by laziness or a lack of will power. Eating sweets didn’t do it. Type 2 diabetes is a genetic disease.
 
 
 Conservatives just exercise such a simple response for a topic with such complexity
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					Originally Posted by wdmso  Fact: It is true that excess weight increases your chance of having diabetes. However, many people who are overweight or obese never develop diabetes.
 
 
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obesity and an inactive lifestyle are two of the most common causes of type 2 diabetes. These things are responsible for about 90% to 95% of diabetes cases in the United States
 
and not coincidentally
 
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				 | Funny   
 
 The deal comes as President Donald Trump returns to the issue of drug prices, trying to woo older people whose votes are critical to his reelection prospects.
 
 Trump Medicare recipients who pick a drug plan offering the new insulin benefit would pay a maximum of $35 a month starting next year, a savings estimated at $446 annually. Fluctuating cost-sharing amounts that are common now would be replaced by a manageable sum.
 
 
 Same plan 35.00.  But for private insurance and republicans shoot it down. As if the above never happened
 
 Trump buying votes good. Dems looking good. Can’t have that
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				 | For the first time this election cycle,  The five Thirty-Eight model projects that Democrats will keep the Senate with a 60/40 advantage.
 
 Which of the things the Trumplicans did do you think is the reason for this change, or it the realization that the the Dems actually pass things that benefit the American people?
 Seems like threatening healthcare, Social Security and Medicare while taking away Choice might not work that well for the far right
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				 | Ron DeSantis recently tweeted an image of what he said was a new state license plate featuring a coiled rattlesnake and the words "Don't Tread on Me," he said it sends a "clear message to out-of-state cars."
 What message is he sending   It’s not freedom it’s extremism
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					Originally Posted by wdmso  Ron DeSantis recently tweeted an image of what he said was a new state license plate featuring a coiled rattlesnake and the words "Don't Tread on Me," he said it sends a "clear message to out-of-state cars."
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 |  completely wrong.  you’re not familiar with that expression, you’ve never seen that flag?  it’s literally an expression of freedom.  
 
google the Gadsden flag for gods sake.   it’s very well known.  it’s literally a symbol of liberty and freedom.
 
next you’ll deny  the statue of liberty is a symbol of liberty.
 
Get SOME FACTS before you go on a stupid rant.
 
but no, you aren’t motivated by partisanship.  No sir!
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  completely wrong.  you’re not familiar with that expression, you’ve never seen that flag?  it’s literally an expression of freedom.  
 google the Gadsden flag for gods sake.   it’s very well known.  it’s literally a symbol of liberty and freedom.
 
 next you’ll deny  the statue of liberty is a symbol of liberty.
 
 Get SOME FACTS before you go on a stupid rant.
 
 but no, you aren’t motivated by partisanship.  No sir!
 
 
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Jim I know the flag and I also know who flys it. And why  and it’s not about freedom 
 
Your so deep in denial it’s not healthy
 
Gone is the original intent to unite the states to fight an outside oppressor. Instead, for those who fly it today, the government is the oppressor.
 
Tell me I am wrong 
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