you wont read these on any conservative media sites

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Trump was involved in some conspiracy to foment an armed insurrection.

You're entitled to creating a narrative. Even if there is no clear evidence that it's true.

Its Odd you are able to formulate these extensive narrative responses to show us how intellectual superior in your worldly view . Of liberalism you are and we are not

It's odd that you think I'm trying to be Intellectually superior. Is it that you are not able to reply to my post with a cogent rebuttle and must resort to ridiculing me as some kind of snob? Calling degrading names is not valid argument. Maybe you just can't handle the truth?

But that intellectual ability can’t seems to read those texts and not see a clear pattern in them and those who sent them. Who’s objective was to overturn the election.

Those texts indicate that they sincerely believed that the election was fraudulent and that they had proof that it was. There was no indication in those texts that they supported the riot.

And these are only some of the messages floating around..

Let’s see the rest

OK. But let's not make assumptions and accusations before we see them.

Yet , you support the refusal of Trumps inner circle to defy Congressional subpoenas , to avoid finding the Truth ?

Who says I support that. Not knowing the whole truth, and having suspicions that the investigation is highly political and probably would cherry pick parts of testimony and twist it all to create a narrative of criminal guilt, as politicians and prosecutors are wont to do, I can understand avoiding the subpoenas.

Yet you claim these text prove trump had no involvement .

I claim that these texts don't show that he was part of a planned, coordinated seditious insurrection.

No it proves Trump did not do anything to protect or stop what was happening? Why would he do such a thing if he didn’t wish it to succeed?l
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I don't know the whole truth of that, nor of what he wished. The texts don't show an unwillingness to stop the riot. They certainly show that the texters were appalled by it and had no part in creating them. As for Trump, maybe more texts will explicitly show that he approved of the riot and wanted it to continue. Until then, you're entitled to your narrative.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

I don't know the whole truth of that, nor of what he wished. The texts don't show an unwillingness to stop the riot. They certainly show that the texters were appalled by it and had no part in creating them. As for Trump, maybe more texts will explicitly show that he approved of the riot and wanted it to continue. Until then, you're entitled to your narrative.

Until then, you're entitled to your narrative.

It’s really not rocket science
They wanted to overturn the legitimate election. Via lies unethical and questionable legal interpretations. They feed the Maga world red meat lie after lie from before during and after the election Trump refused to conduct a transfer of power in a timely fashion they called for the Maga universe to appear for the stop the steal rally then instigated them with more lying and whipped up the crowd

Then the Dogs many who heard their marching orders for months show up with helmets body armor zip ties bear spray batons to take back what Trump and Republicans had told them was taken from them!

Then the chain broke and the hounds were off already with the scent of keeping Trump in office

Only then did the handlers get concerned. They wanted a clean coup some twisted legal version

And just because it doesn’t succeed doesn’t make it some made up narrative

As for Trump, maybe more texts will explicitly show that he approved of the riot and wanted it to continue

A brave statement knowing 100% he’ll never testify under oath
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[Got Stripers]

"Those texts indicate that they sincerely believed that the election was fraudulent and that they had proof that it was."

If they had the proof, the election would probably already have been reversed, yet with all the litigation to date nada, zip, nothing to dispute with Trumps own AG's statement it was a fair election.

Just because those texts Meadows was willing to release (could it be he cherry picked those to make everyone believe they were all innocent and not complicit) indicate at the time they were not happy with the violence and capitol breach; doesn't mean they weren't part of a plan to reverse the election. It doesn't mean some didn't do as Trump did, claim it was stolen and suggest everyone attend and eventually march on the capitol. I think Meadows stopped cooperating as he knows the rest is going to show many were involved in planning the nullification of the results and the magical green bay sweep.

To suggest Trump wasn't part of getting Jan6th to that level is ridiculous, he wanted them there and he isn't a dummy, he knew what groups were coming. Just because he was only driving the car and claims he had no knowledge his buddies were robbing the bank, doesn't mean he is innocent. Trump is also the perfect mob boss, he gets everyone else to do his dirty work and then he sat back and watched the house burn down, only suggesting it stop after the damage had been done.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

"Those texts indicate that they sincerely believed that the election was fraudulent and that they had proof that it was."

If they had the proof, the election would probably already have been reversed, yet with all the litigation to date nada, zip, nothing to dispute with Trumps own AG's statement it was a fair election.

Like you, they had an unproven opinion that they firmly believed.

Just because those texts Meadows was willing to release (could it be he cherry picked those to make everyone believe they were all innocent and not complicit) indicate at the time they were not happy with the violence and capitol breach; doesn't mean they weren't part of a plan to reverse the election. It doesn't mean some didn't do as Trump did, claim it was stolen and suggest everyone attend and eventually march on the capitol. I think Meadows stopped cooperating as he knows the rest is going to show many were involved in planning the nullification of the results and the magical green bay sweep.

It doesn't mean that what you think, your opinion or conjecture, is true.

To suggest Trump wasn't part of getting Jan6th to that level is ridiculous, he wanted them there and he isn't a dummy, he knew what groups were coming. Just because he was only driving the car and claims he had no knowledge his buddies were robbing the bank, doesn't mean he is innocent. Trump is also the perfect mob boss, he gets everyone else to do his dirty work and then he sat back and watched the house burn down, only suggesting it stop after the damage had been done.

And your Proof (not your opinion) is? Without that proof, your opinion can be considered, as you put it, ridiculous.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by detbuch

And your Proof (not your opinion) is? Without that proof, your opinion can be considered, as you put it, ridiculous.

Well if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, it's not a big stretch to come to the conclusion it's a friggin duck. But you keep telling yourself the evidence just doesn't support that conclusion and I'll keep believing the friggin duck had a lot to do with how it happened, why it happened and why it wasn't shut down sooner.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Well if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, it's not a big stretch to come to the conclusion it's a friggin duck. But you keep telling yourself the evidence just doesn't support that conclusion and I'll keep believing the friggin duck had a lot to do with how it happened, why it happened and why it wasn't shut down sooner.

For you it looks like a duck. To me your duck looks pretty lame.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by detbuch

For you it looks like a duck. To me your duck looks pretty lame.

Finally we agree Trump is a lame excuse for a human or even a duck, not to mention a man, businessman or president. Even he knows it as he continues to claim he took a test to confirm his brilliance, sadly a toddler with average intelligence could pass that test, thankfully for him he threatened every school he ever attended should they ever release his records. The sad thing is the GOP leadership knows what he is, but the weak minded supporters of Trump have them biting their tongues; oops you mean they have recordings of our private conversations.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Until then, you're entitled to your narrative.

It’s really not rocket science
They wanted to overturn the legitimate election. Via lies unethical and questionable legal interpretations. They feed the Maga world red meat lie after lie from before during and after the election Trump refused to conduct a transfer of power in a timely fashion they called for the Maga universe to appear for the stop the steal rally then instigated them with more lying and whipped up the crowd

Then the Dogs many who heard their marching orders for months show up with helmets body armor zip ties bear spray batons to take back what Trump and Republicans had told them was taken from them!

Then the chain broke and the hounds were off already with the scent of keeping Trump in office

Only then did the handlers get concerned. They wanted a clean coup some twisted legal version

And just because it doesn’t succeed doesn’t make it some made up narrative

As for Trump, maybe more texts will explicitly show that he approved of the riot and wanted it to continue

A brave statement knowing 100% he’ll never testify under oath
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You're right. Your theories are not rocket science. Rocket, or any science, requires more than (as in your theory) conjecture and supposition which lead to making an unproven narrative comprised of statements as if they must somehow be true because, to you, they appear to make some kind of immutable truth.

But you are entitled to your narrative. Don't be flummoxed that others are not persuaded by it. Some people, especially as in actual courts of justice, require more than made up narrative presented as fact.