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04-08-2022, 02:12 PM
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The Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances comprises three identical political agreements signed at the OSCE conference in Budapest, Hungary, on 5 December 1994, to provide security assurances by its signatories relating to the accession of Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT). The memorandum was originally signed by three nuclear powers: the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States.
The memorandum prohibited the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States from threatening or using military force or economic coercion against Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan, "except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations." As a result of other agreements and the memorandum, between 1993 and 1996, Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons.
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04-08-2022, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
The Budapest Memorandum \
The memorandum prohibited the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States from threatening or using military force or economic coercion against Ukraine,
Gee, maybe Biden didn't know about the Memorandum when he economically coerced Ukraine by threatening to withhold money promised to them.
Belarus, and Kazakhstan, "except in self-defence
And maybe poor pootie sees the destruction of Ukraine as, overall, a defensive move against the encroachment of NATO.
or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations." As a result of other agreements and the memorandum, between 1993 and 1996, Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons.
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04-08-2022, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Bad move . . .
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Not that the disgraced former president of the USA ever withheld aid, prestige or anything from Ukraine while hosting Lavrov in the Oval Office.
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04-08-2022, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Not that the disgraced former president of the USA ever withheld aid, prestige or anything from Ukraine while hosting Lavrov in the Oval Office.
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Biden admitted that he coerced Ukraine. Zelensky said that Trump didn't coerce him. But that's not the point. The point is that we don't have some higher moral ground in that respect of the Budapest Memorandum than Russia. And that Putin may well believe his action is a desperate defensive measure against NATO encroachment.
I'm trying to see it through Putin's eyes, not mine. I despise what he is doing.
Last edited by detbuch; 04-08-2022 at 10:40 PM..
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