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04-04-2022, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
As we wake to pictures and reports of horrifying war crimes committed by Vladimir Putin's forces in Ukraine, innocents, hands tied behind their backs, lined up and executed, children, women, men, thrown into ditches or left in the streets, I would remind you of this:
"Why do I care what is going on in the conflict between Ukraine and Russia? I'm serious. Why shouldn't I root for Russia? Which by the way I am."
-- Tucker Carlson
"This is genius. Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine -- of Ukraine. Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that's wonderful."
-- Donald J. Trump
"I'd say that's pretty smart. He's [Putin] taking over a country -- really a vast, vast location, a great piece of land with a lot of people, and just walking right in."
-- Donald. J. Trump
Russia learned from the Nazi invasion of their own country. They took that brutal lesson to heart, target the innocents, burn the hospitals, slaughter civilians, destroy the infrastructure.
Trump, Carlson, et al look upon that horror and they see ... strength.
You have only to look to Fox News and OAN right now to see those who speak for Republican ideology threatening similar revenge on Americans for imagined slights. See the comment of Ron DeSantis, Florida Republicans, Laura Ingraham, et al.
That's how it starts.
That rhetoric. Revenge. Getting even. Using the power of government and the military to crush your opponents. That's where it starts.
And it ends with the bodies of innocents shot in the head and dumped in a ditch.
You remember when Trump as President threatened to send the Army into Chicago?
And Republicans cheered that idea?
When he paraded tanks through our capitol?
And Republican cheered?
Do you?
It's all part of the same mindset, one that ends in genocide. Every time.
We must not only stop what's happening in Ukraine, we must stop it before it happens HERE.
Case in point, right here.
This is how you justify genocide. This is how you justify the same sort of slaughter that's happening in Ukraine right now.
This is how you see Vladimir Putin as strength. Right here. This right here.
Rep. Lisa McClain (MI) says that migrants crossing the border are all “terrorists, convicts, murderers and rapists.”
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if you’re uneasy with the republicans aggressive flexing of muscles now, wait until november pete.
obama’s IRS was targeting conservatives when he was potus. Where was your concern for political retribution then? or for Carter Paige?
oh, you’re going to have a rough november.
if trump had sent the army into places like chicago, more blacks would be alive right now. those places are third world cities
you have come completely unhinged. trump speaks for all
republicans? when Hilary slut shamed her husbands victims on national tv, did that cause you to vote for someone else? seriously, why is it on when you support a morally bankrupt candidate? but a character flaw when anyone else does it?
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04-05-2022, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
obama’s IRS was targeting conservatives when he was potus.
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That is a not a complete or totally true statement. The IRS unit that reviews 501(c)(4) applications had been using the names of organizations as an initial filter to try to decide who was likely to be involved in inappropriate political activity. The IRS had flagged not just political sounding names but names that signaled a conservative orientation, including tea party, patriot, 9/12, etc. And that is what the Rs ran with. What was ignored is that the unit was also looking for words like occupy, progressive, etc.
The IRS used political sounding names but it did not do so on a partisan basis. And then they stopped using those search terms. There was later a report from the inspector general which said there was no political bias from the IRS but the gov apologized for using the search terms.
Obama had zero part in anything.
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04-05-2022, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
That is a not a complete or totally true statement. The IRS unit that reviews 501(c)(4) applications had been using the names of organizations as an initial filter to try to decide who was likely to be involved in inappropriate political activity. The IRS had flagged not just political sounding names but names that signaled a conservative orientation, including tea party, patriot, 9/12, etc. And that is what the Rs ran with. What was ignored is that the unit was also looking for words like occupy, progressive, etc.
The IRS used political sounding names but it did not do so on a partisan basis. And then they stopped using those search terms. There was later a report from the inspector general which said there was no political bias from the IRS but the gov apologized for using the search terms.
Obama had zero part in anything.
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in which “inappropriate political activity”, means conservative activity.
no evidence whatsoever obama played a direct role. i didn’t say that he did. but why do you suppose those people at the IRS felt, that at a time when obama
was potus, it was a good idea to target conservatives?
when you’re an executive, the people who work for you, are an extension of your policy.
is there any evidence that progressive groups got unfavorable treatment from the IRS, just for being progressive? i didn’t hear about any.
the point was whether or not conservatives are ever unfairly targeted for being conservative. that was one example. Brett Kavanaugh would be another pretty solid example.
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04-05-2022, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
in which “inappropriate political activity”, means conservative activity.wrong. they looked at both
no evidence whatsoever obama played a direct role. i didn’t say that he did. but why do you suppose those people at the IRS felt, that at a time when obama
was potus, it was a good idea to target conservatives? but they didn't "target conservatives"
when you’re an executive, the people who work for you, are an extension of your policy.
is there any evidence that progressive groups got unfavorable treatment from the IRS, just for being progressive? i didn’t hear about any.They did. There were more conserv. leaning org. filing though.
the point was whether or not conservatives are ever unfairly targeted for being conservative. that was one example. Brett Kavanaugh would be another pretty solid example.
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But they weren't being unfairly targeted any more or less than liberal ones.
The problem was that the IRS was starved for $ and took shortcuts bc of staffing/$ issues
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