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Old 04-03-2022, 08:41 PM   #1
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So you think there’s no correlation between the two?

“ the rich are getting richer, and with inflation, the middle class is taking a serious beating. but we can’t talk about that.”
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The middle class has been taking a beating before the current inflation, and during previous inflations. And the middle class has gotten richer when the rich got richer and has shrunk when the rich got richer. So it seems that the shrinking of the middle class is correlated to something other than inflation or the rich getting richer.

There seems to be a correlation between the shrinking middle class and the growth of centralized corporate and government power.
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Old 04-03-2022, 08:52 PM   #2
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The middle class has been taking a beating before the current inflation, and during previous inflations. And the middle class has gotten richer when the rich got richer and has shrunk when the rich got richer. So it seems that the shrinking of the middle class is correlated to something other than inflation or the rich getting richer.

There seems to be a correlation between the shrinking middle class and the growth of centralized corporate and government power.
Corporate power controls government power, perhaps you missed that.
Has since Citizen United
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Old 04-03-2022, 09:56 PM   #3
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Corporate power controls government power, perhaps you missed that.
Has since Citizen United
Perhaps you missed that it's a symbiotic relationship. They need each other. Politicians are not forced into the relationship. They enter it for the same reason the corporations do. The money and the power.

And that relationship is responsible for the centralization of government and corporate power. And that centralization of power correlates more thoroughly with the weakening of the middle class than the correlation of that to the rich getting richer.

It is the reason the middle class and the individual and local government have lost power and the central government and centralized business have become more powerful.
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Old 04-04-2022, 02:19 AM   #4
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Perhaps you missed that it's a symbiotic relationship. They need each other. Politicians are not forced into the relationship. They enter it for the same reason the corporations do. The money and the power.

And that relationship is responsible for the centralization of government and corporate power. And that centralization of power correlates more thoroughly with the weakening of the middle class than the correlation of that to the rich getting richer.

It is the reason the middle class and the individual and local government have lost power and the central government and centralized business have become more powerful.
And the root cause is the increase in political funding allowed by the Citizens United decision
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