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04-01-2022, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
You could ask Roger Stone
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I asked you and you could not say that it was in planned coordination with the other rioters or the tens of thousands of protesters. You could not say it was because their is no evidence or accusation that it was.
But you sure can insinuate that Jan6 was a coup or an insurrection. It's what you do--a constant flow of propaganda.
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04-02-2022, 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
I asked you and you could not say that it was in planned coordination with the other rioters or the tens of thousands of protesters. You could not say it was because their is no evidence or accusation that it was.
But you sure can insinuate that Jan6 was a coup or an insurrection. It's what you do--a constant flow of propaganda.
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Patience
It takes time to build a conspiracy case.
And your obfuscation of the facts that continue to emerge in court filings is wishful thinking.
On the anniversary of January 6, Merrick Garland explained that all of the arrests from the first year had laid the foundation for more complex cases.
This is the kind of thing he was talking about : working your way up through Mark Grods to Joshua James to Stewart Rhodes to Roger Stone, taking the time to crack and exploit Tarrio’s phone, exploiting early access to Straka’s comms to get to the organizers. The investigation “aperture” hasn’t changed; what has changed is DOJ has acquired information it needed before it could take the next step.
As I said before, patience
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04-02-2022, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Patience
It takes time to build a conspiracy case.
And your obfuscation of the facts that continue to emerge in court filings is wishful thinking.
On the anniversary of January 6, Merrick Garland explained that all of the arrests from the first year had laid the foundation for more complex cases.
This is the kind of thing he was talking about: working your way up through Mark Grods to Joshua James to Stewart Rhodes to Roger Stone, taking the time to crack and exploit Tarrio’s phone, exploiting early access to Straka’s comms to get to the organizers. The investigation “aperture” hasn’t changed; what has changed is DOJ has acquired information it needed before it could take the next step.
As I said before, patience
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You're the one lacking patience. At this point in time, what you want to label Jan6 has not been proven. But you just can't wait for the final results. Just like the Mueller investigation or the Trump impeachments, or the Stormy what's her name, and the Cohen, and the NY AG investigation, etc., etc. You had and have pronounced Trump guilty before the verdicts were. or are, in.
As for Jan6, at this point, there seems to be different actors in different groups, or solo, doing different things with different motives. Some may actually, EVENTUALLY, be convicted of various things you hope for. But to frame the whole rally as a singular coordinated conspiracy for some singularly desired result, is premature, or just politically driven narrative.
PATIENCE.
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04-02-2022, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
You're the one lacking patience. At this point in time, what you want to label Jan6 has not been proven. But you just can't wait for the final results. Just like the Mueller investigation or the Trump impeachments, or the Stormy what's her name, and the Cohen, and the NY AG investigation, etc., etc. You had and have pronounced Trump guilty before the verdicts were. or are, in.
As for Jan6, at this point, there seems to be different actors in different groups, or solo, doing different things with different motives. Some may actually, EVENTUALLY, be convicted of various things you hope for. But to frame the whole rally as a singular coordinated conspiracy for some singularly desired result, is premature, or just politically driven narrative.
PATIENCE.
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january 6th was an organized, heavily armed, right wing coup. and when congressional
democrats tried to steal trump win i. 2016 bu challenging state results with zero evidence, that was ok, because shut up.
and the BLM riots were a benign event, also because shut up.
And Biden will end up on Mt Rushmore.
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04-02-2022, 09:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by detbuch
You're the one lacking patience. At this point in time, what you want to label Jan6 has not been proven. But you just can't wait for the final results. Just like the Mueller investigation or the Trump impeachments, or the Stormy what's her name, and the Cohen, and the NY AG investigation, etc., etc. You had and have pronounced Trump guilty before the verdicts were. or are, in.
As for Jan6, at this point, there seems to be different actors in different groups, or solo, doing different things with different motives. Some may actually, EVENTUALLY, be convicted of various things you hope for. But to frame the whole rally as a singular coordinated conspiracy for some singularly desired result, is premature, or just politically driven narrative.
PATIENCE.
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I don’t know of any source that claims that everyone on January 6th coordinated their actions.
There are many people charged with crimes at the capital on January 6th.
Some have ALREADY been convicted of conspiring to overturn the election.
Just keep denying
You’ve been doing it for years
I think you forget that Mueller prosecuted Trump's coffee boy, Campaign Manager and his Deputy, personal lawyer, National Security Advisor and rat-#^&#^&#^&#^&er, plus referring a case against his top donor, Tom Barrack, who is currently being prosecuted.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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04-02-2022, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
I don’t know of any source that claims that everyone on January 6th coordinated their actions.
When you and the Dems were calling Jan6 an insurrection, y'all weren't singling out a tiny minority of the 30 thousand attending the rally or of the 700 hundred arrested at the time, you were characterizing the entire event and the entire riot as an insurrection.
There are many people charged with crimes at the capital on January 6th.
Yes and most are not charged with insurrection or of perpetrating a coup.
Some have ALREADY been convicted of conspiring to overturn the election.
"Some"!! And how many and for exactly what?
Just keep denying
Denying what?
You’ve been doing it for years
Denying what?
I think you forget that Mueller prosecuted Trump's coffee boy, Campaign Manager and his Deputy, personal lawyer, National Security Advisor and rat-#^&#^&#^&#^&er, plus referring a case against his top donor, Tom Barrack, who is currently being prosecuted.
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You were saying that TRUMP was guilty, before Mueller finished his investigation, as well in the other ongoing investigations before they were finished, and in which none convicted Trump of the crimes which you claimed he was guilty of. You consistently were not, as you claim I must be, PATIENT. And were proved wrong.
You're the one who keeps denying.
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