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03-10-2022, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Trump had and encouraged aid from his Russian good friends.
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Can't answer! Shocker!
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03-10-2022, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
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I suppose you think getting aid from his Russian friends is acceptable and fair.
Since you dismiss or encouraged Russian interference in the 2016 US election then explain how you’re now tough on Russia on Ukraine. The two acts are part of the same Putin plan to undermine rule of law & the West - aggression that goes back at least to Georgia in 2008.
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03-10-2022, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
I suppose you think getting aid from his Russian friends is acceptable and fair.
Since you dismiss or encouraged Russian interference in the 2016 US election then explain how you’re now tough on Russia on Ukraine. The two acts are part of the same Putin plan to undermine rule of law & the West - aggression that goes back at least to Georgia in 2008.
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I don't think it's acceptable, but I'm certain it didn't effect the outcome.
If I combed through Hilary's donor list, I'm quite certainI'd find some loathsome people.
Anyway, I knew full well there was no way you'd give me a yes or no answer. You can't. If you say it was fair, you're going against the Narrative, and you can't do that.
If you say it wasn't fair, you know you sound exactly as nutty as Trump when he says 2020 wasn't fair.
I backed you into a corner, you couldn't escape with a direct answer, so you dodged.
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03-10-2022, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
I don't think it's acceptable, but I'm certain it didn't effect the outcome.
If I combed through Hilary's donor list, I'm quite certainI'd find some loathsome people.
Anyway, I knew full well there was no way you'd give me a yes or no answer. You can't. If you say it was fair, you're going against the Narrative, and you can't do that.
If you say it wasn't fair, you know you sound exactly as nutty as Trump when he says 2020 wasn't fair.
The difference is there is no evidence of the 2020 election being unfair, there is plenty of evidence that the Russians interfered with both the 2016 and 2020 elections
I backed you into a corner, you couldn't escape with a direct answer, so you dodged.
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Yes, both elections had significant evidence of russian interference.
But just keep repeating the Russian propaganda and claiming that what is clearly visible is fake news.
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03-10-2022, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Yes, both elections had significant evidence of russian interference.
But just keep repeating the Russian propaganda and claiming that what is clearly visible is fake news.
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i’m not denying the russians interfered. i asked what evidence there is, that russian interference impacted the outcome in any way.
pretty simple question. you’ve obviously concluded that it had an effect.
there’s no evidence to support that. but you still believe it, because it supports the narrative
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03-10-2022, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
i’m not denying the russians interfered. i asked what evidence there is, that russian interference impacted the outcome in any way.
pretty simple question. you’ve obviously concluded that it had an effect.
there’s no evidence to support that. but you still believe it, because it supports the narrative
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There’s plenty of demonstrative, documentary and digital evidence that Russia’s million plus a month spending on a disinformation campaign to aid Trump had an effect on the outcome of the 2016 election, what would you find acceptable as evidence?
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03-10-2022, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
There’s plenty of demonstrative, documentary and digital evidence that Russia’s million plus a month spending on a disinformation campaign to aid Trump had an effect on the outcome of the 2016 election, what would you find acceptable as evidence?
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Russia's spending is not enough evidence. The Dems raised 40 million dollars more in campaign money. The media propaganda was heavily in favor of the Dems. There's no telling how much influence money was spent by other countries and for whom. The polls, which should have reflected how much influence the spending (including Russia's) had on public opinion, were massively favoring the Dems.
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03-14-2022, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
There’s plenty of demonstrative, documentary and digital evidence that Russia’s million plus a month spending on a disinformation campaign to aid Trump had an effect on the outcome of the 2016 election, what would you find acceptable as evidence?
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something other than your say-so.
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