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Old 03-02-2022, 01:00 PM   #1
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U.S. National Security Advisor John Bolton berated his former boss, President Donald Trump, over his lack of knowledge dealing with Russia during his presidency.

Bolton appeared on the far-right Newsmax network's Rob Schmitt Tonight disagreeing with the host's opinion that Trump had been hard on Russia while he was in office, saying Trump was not competent to be president.

When Schmitt said the Trump administration's approach was "pretty tough on Russia, in a lot of ways," Bolton disagreed. Bolton argued that Trump "didn't understand what he was doing" in regards to Russia.

"This is not really a policy argument," Bolton said. "This is really about Trump's lack of any significant historical knowledge, his lack of strategic thinking, and frankly, his lack of thinking about pretty much anything other than what benefitted Donald Trump."

Bolton went on to say the former president only made moves that would benefit himself and his own political purposes, not the country.

"Why was he concerned about Ukraine in the summer of 2019? Because he wanted that DNC server," Bolton added. "Why was he concerned about corruption in Ukraine? Because he was looking for an excuse to cover the reason he was refusing to send $250 million of security assistance to the Ukraine, and only when that finally blew up in his face."

Schmitt interrupted Bolton saying that Trump eventually did send Ukraine assistance and even sold them arms. Bolton became more frank, asserting the assistance was mandated by Congress and that Trump "made up the reasons" that he did it to apply pressure for his own motives.

"But in almost every case, the sanctions were imposed with Trump complaining about it and saying we were being too hard," Bolton said. "The fact is that he barely knew where Ukraine was. He once asked John Kelly, his second chief of staff, if Finland were a part of Russia. It's just not accurate to say that Trump's behavior somehow deterred the Russians."

Schmitt insisted that it was unfair to say that Trump made no intelligent moves against Russia during his presidency. In a speech Saturday at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) Trump claimed the Ukraine invasion wouldn't have happened had he not lost the 2020 election, continuing to falsely say it was stolen from him.

Bolton continued to back up his thoughts on Trump, telling Schmitt he should have never been president to begin with.

"Trump was not fit to be president," Bolton said. "He was not competent to be president."

Newsweek reached out to Bolton for further comment.
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Old 03-02-2022, 01:37 PM   #2
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U.S. National Security Advisor John Bolton berated his former boss, President Donald Trump, over his lack of knowledge dealing with Russia during his presidency.

Bolton appeared on the far-right Newsmax network's Rob Schmitt Tonight disagreeing with the host's opinion that Trump had been hard on Russia while he was in office, saying Trump was not competent to be president.

When Schmitt said the Trump administration's approach was "pretty tough on Russia, in a lot of ways," Bolton disagreed. Bolton argued that Trump "didn't understand what he was doing" in regards to Russia.

"This is not really a policy argument," Bolton said. "This is really about Trump's lack of any significant historical knowledge, his lack of strategic thinking, and frankly, his lack of thinking about pretty much anything other than what benefitted Donald Trump."

Bolton went on to say the former president only made moves that would benefit himself and his own political purposes, not the country.

"Why was he concerned about Ukraine in the summer of 2019? Because he wanted that DNC server," Bolton added. "Why was he concerned about corruption in Ukraine? Because he was looking for an excuse to cover the reason he was refusing to send $250 million of security assistance to the Ukraine, and only when that finally blew up in his face."

Schmitt interrupted Bolton saying that Trump eventually did send Ukraine assistance and even sold them arms. Bolton became more frank, asserting the assistance was mandated by Congress and that Trump "made up the reasons" that he did it to apply pressure for his own motives.

"But in almost every case, the sanctions were imposed with Trump complaining about it and saying we were being too hard," Bolton said. "The fact is that he barely knew where Ukraine was. He once asked John Kelly, his second chief of staff, if Finland were a part of Russia. It's just not accurate to say that Trump's behavior somehow deterred the Russians."

Schmitt insisted that it was unfair to say that Trump made no intelligent moves against Russia during his presidency. In a speech Saturday at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) Trump claimed the Ukraine invasion wouldn't have happened had he not lost the 2020 election, continuing to falsely say it was stolen from him.

Bolton continued to back up his thoughts on Trump, telling Schmitt he should have never been president to begin with.

"Trump was not fit to be president," Bolton said. "He was not competent to be president."

Newsweek reached out to Bolton for further comment.
What are we supposed to conclude from someone expressing personal opinions about someone else's competence and motivations? I don't see a competent, unbiased, critical analysis of Trump in this Bolton sketch of Trump. And resorting to what looks more like a smear rather than an analytical observation, raises, for me, a question about Bolton's motivation.
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Old 03-02-2022, 01:45 PM   #3
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What are we supposed to conclude from someone expressing personal opinions about someone else's competence and motivations? I don't see a competent, unbiased, critical analysis of Trump in this Bolton sketch of Trump. And resorting to what looks more like a smear rather than an analytical observation, raises, for me, a question about Bolton's motivation.
he seems a little bitter....remember when pete told us his book was going to bring down trump?
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Old 03-02-2022, 02:58 PM   #4
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"This is not really a policy argument," Bolton said. .
In other words, Bolton can't argue with what Trump actually did, he just hates Trump because Trump pretty much ended Bolton's relevance within the GOP.

How come no one on the left wants to have policy arguments?
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In other words, Bolton can't argue with what Trump actually did, he just hates Trump because Trump pretty much ended Bolton's relevance within the GOP.

How come no one on the left wants to have policy arguments?
Or maybe he dislikes Trump for being so stupid and only looking out for himself instead of the country (similar to what F. Hill said about Trump).

"This is not really a policy argument," Bolton said. "This is really about Trump's lack of any significant historical knowledge, his lack of strategic thinking, and frankly, his lack of thinking about pretty much anything other than what benefitted Donald Trump."

Bolton went on to say the former president only made moves that would benefit himself and his own political purposes, not the country.

"Why was he concerned about Ukraine in the summer of 2019? Because he wanted that DNC server," Bolton added. "Why was he concerned about corruption in Ukraine? Because he was looking for an excuse to cover the reason he was refusing to send $250 million of security assistance to the Ukraine, and only when that finally blew up in his face."
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Bolton went on to say the former president only made moves that would benefit himself and his own political purposes, not the country.
yet the country was doing great and the world was pretty peaceful till covid and biden...democrats weren't happy of course
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Or maybe he dislikes Trump for being so stupid and only looking out for himself instead of the country (similar to what F. Hill said about Trump).



Bolton went on to say the former president only made moves that would benefit himself and his own political purposes, not the country.

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and that’s demonstrably false horse crap.

the country was better ifff before covid but by just about any conceivable measure, that’s. it was in 2020.

as i said, vague personal attacks that are totally refuted by the facts. trump did things americans liked.
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and that’s demonstrably false horse crap.

the country was better ifff before covid but by just about any conceivable measure, that’s. it was in 2020.

as i said, vague personal attacks that are totally refuted by the facts. trump did things americans liked.
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ok so 2 who dealt w/Trump on a daily??? basis behind closed doors both said the same thing but it is horse crap.
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ok so 2 who dealt w/Trump on a daily??? basis behind closed doors both said the same thing but it is horse crap.
Yes, it's horsecrap to say something that's completely contradicted by the facts.

Tax cuts, generationally low unemployment, lowest black unemployment ever recorded, not getting us involved in stupid wars, bringing jihadists to their knees, soaring stock market, criminal justice reform...

NONE of that helped the country?

It doesn't matter if everyone Trump ever met said he didn't do anything to help the country, the fact is he did help the country.

My favorite moment of the Trump presidency? A little kid wrote to Trump that he also wanted to start his own business, a lawn mowing business. So Trump brought him to the White House, let the kid cut the lawn, Trump walked back and forth across the lawn with the kid. A rare nice moment.

The left couldn't let him have it, they claimed he should be investigated for violating child labor laws.

That's why they put the "D" in TDS.

A record number of Americans said they were better off after Trumps presidency. No other president scored higher.

That certainly doesn't mean he was the best president. But sure as hell it means that he helped the country.

Bolton is a washed up has been, consumed by bitterness at his loss of influence.
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ok so 2 who dealt w/Trump on a daily??? basis behind closed doors both said the same thing but it is horse crap.
There are several others who dealt with Trump on a daily basis who do not say what Bolton said, but say the opposite. If your criteria is believing those who dealt with Trump on a daily basis, then you should believe others besides Bolton. But you don't. You pick the ones you agree with. So your stated criteria is horsecrap.
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