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02-22-2022, 07:53 AM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Trump withholding support for Ukraine in his lame attempt to get dirt on Biden and his outstanding job at dividing Americans and weakening NATO was a gift to Putin, leaving him this military option as his only way to take back Ukraine before they can join nato.
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02-22-2022, 07:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Trump withholding support for Ukraine in his lame attempt to get dirt on Biden and his outstanding job at dividing Americans and weakening NATO was a gift to Putin, leaving him this military option as his only way to take back Ukraine before they can join nato.
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time to stop blaming trump ...brandon is effing everything up now... |
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02-22-2022, 08:05 AM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scottw
time to stop blaming trump ...brandon is effing everything up now...
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Trump helped Putin and harmed Ukraine and like everything else he touched left it to the next administration to clean up, but I agree Biden should have pulled the trigger on stiff sanctions as soon as it became apparent what was coming. |
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02-22-2022, 08:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Trump ........ and his outstanding job at dividing Americans
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Trump didn't divide Americans, Americans divided Americans. All he was, was a catalyst that brought people's ugliness to the surface (both sides). People are responsible for their own actions on how they treated people, not the Orange Man. |
"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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02-22-2022, 09:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Trump didn't divide Americans, Americans divided Americans. All he was, was a catalyst that brought people's ugliness to the surface (both sides). People are responsible for their own actions on how they treated people, not the Orange Man.
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And he didn't weaken Ukraine by "withholding" support. Ukraine got the support, and more than Obama gave. No wonder they keep getting it wrong, they keep believing their own lies. |
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02-22-2022, 01:53 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Quote:
Originally Posted by detbuch
And he didn't weaken Ukraine by "withholding" support. Ukraine got the support, and more than Obama gave. No wonder they keep getting it wrong, they keep believing their own lies.
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Again another captain obvious, I'm well aware Trump eventually released what CONGRESS approved, even though he had no right to hold it up for his little political Rudy driven craziness about getting Ukraine to help dig up dirt, but by holding it up he was given Putin a good laugh that his browmance with Trump might bear fruit. |
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02-22-2022, 02:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers
his browmance with Trump
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he admired his eyebrows? |
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02-22-2022, 05:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Again another captain obvious, I'm well aware Trump eventually released what CONGRESS approved, even though he had no right to hold it up for his little political Rudy driven craziness about getting Ukraine to help dig up dirt, but by holding it up he was given Putin a good laugh that his browmance with Trump might bear fruit.
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Now I understand . . . you didn't mean that Trump weakened Ukraine, but that he gave Putin a good laugh . . . maybe that's why Putin didn't invade Ukraine then, because he was having too good a time laughing. Maybe Biden should have given Putin a good laugh too, so he would 't invade Ukraine. |
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02-22-2022, 09:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Trump didn't divide Americans, Americans divided Americans. All he was, was a catalyst that brought people's ugliness to the surface (both sides). People are responsible for their own actions on how they treated people, not the Orange Man.
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That common sense argument, spits in the face of liberalism, which is largely based on the idea that nothing that anyone does, is their own fault. Everything is someone else's fault. That's liberalism. |
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