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			02-21-2022, 02:03 PM
			
			
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				why do you "almost exclusively" resort to innuendo? 
			
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 No, Manafort and Gates both were paid by Deripaska and Deripaska loaned Manafort 10M. 
How did Manafort repay that? 
Grenell was paid by Vladimir Plahotniuc, a sanctioned Oligarch. 
As Putin said Americans are easy, I can buy all I need and he did.
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			02-21-2022, 03:10 PM
			
			
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				No, Manafort and Gates both were paid by Deripaska and Deripaska loaned Manafort 10M. 
How did Manafort repay that? 
Grenell was paid by Vladimir Plahotniuc, a sanctioned Oligarch. 
As Putin said Americans are easy, I can buy all I need and he did. 
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 What was illegal?  
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-21-2022, 03:18 PM
			
			
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 Both Manafort and Gates were convicted.
 
What did Manafort not talk about?
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			02-21-2022, 03:39 PM
			
			
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				Both Manafort and Gates were convicted. 
 
What did Manafort not talk about? 
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 What about Grenell?  You threw Grenell into the mix after I quoted what he said about Fiona Hill--"Why is it that almost exclusively if you look at a Trump political operative, Grenell for example".  There seemed to be some innuendo there about Grenell, perhaps, not being good as a reference.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-21-2022, 04:26 PM
			
			
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				What about Grenell?  You threw Grenell into the mix after I quoted what he said about Fiona Hill--"Why is it that almost exclusively if you look at a Trump political operative, Grenell for example".  There seemed to be some innuendo there about Grenell, perhaps, not being good as a reference. 
			
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 Grenell is tangled up with Rudy, Toensing and that crowd.
 
“During the situation that was going on with the Firtash case, Victoria [Toensing] called Ric Grenell...
 
“She basically asked him, if he sees any pressure coming from DOJ to extradite Firtash, if he could let us know. She told me he said he would.”
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			02-21-2022, 05:25 PM
			
			
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“During the situation that was going on with the Firtash case, Victoria [Toensing] called Ric Grenell... 
 
“She basically asked him, if he sees any pressure coming from DOJ to extradite Firtash, if he could let us know. She told me he said he would.” 
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 Must be something there . . . eh?   Did that "crowd" create or push the spread of the steele "Dossier?  
		
		
		
		
		
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				Must be something there . . . eh?   Did that "crowd" create or push the spread of the steele "Dossier? 
			
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 There was no Russian Collusion except for the Don Jr Trump Tower Meeting, Sessions meeting with the Russian Amb, Manafort sharing polling data with a Russian agent, the troll farms, the Facebook ads paid in rubles, the Clinton emails released through Wikileaks coordinated by Roger Stone.
 
RUSSIAN Oligarch Oleg DERIPASKA Pays Back MITCH
 
- Dec 2018: McConnell pushed to lift sanctions on Deripaska, Putin ally
 
- May 2019: Rusal (Deripaska) invests $200 million in Kentucky aluminum plant, McConnell's state
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