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01-27-2022, 10:43 AM
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WDMSO, if democrats only care about fixing things and they don't care about future votes, please explain why Biden said 2 years ago that he'd put a black woman on the supreme court?
What if there are better candidates than the best black woman? Isn't it an obviously political pandering exercise, to announce years ahead of time that only black women will be considered?
Have fun answering that.
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01-27-2022, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
WDMSO, if democrats only care about fixing things and they don't care about future votes, please explain why Biden said 2 years ago that he'd put a black woman on the supreme court?
What if there are better candidates than the best black woman? Isn't it an obviously political pandering exercise, to announce years ahead of time that only black women will be considered?
Have fun answering that.
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I'm offended that he didn't announce he was going to put a Native American on the Supreme Court..we were here first ..WTF? make it a two-spirit if you want to be PC
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01-27-2022, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
WDMSO, if democrats only care about fixing things and they don't care about future votes, please explain why Biden said 2 years ago that he'd put a black woman on the supreme court?
What if there are better candidates than the best black woman? Isn't it an obviously political pandering exercise, to announce years ahead of time that only black women will be considered?
Have fun answering that.
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As if on cue Jim play the affirmative action card. And carry’s the latest conservatives outrage ..
Funny never heard you question Trumps picks over better candidates
But I. Understand black and a woman and smart you and conservatives worse fears
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01-27-2022, 05:44 PM
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As if on cue Jim play the affirmative action card. And carry’s the latest conservatives outrage ..
Funny never heard you question Trumps picks over better candidates
But I. Understand black and a woman and smart you and conservatives worse fears
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didn’t come close to answering the question.
what point is there to announcing years ahead of time, that only a narrow slice will even be considered?
what if the best candidate is asian? what’s the upside, other than politics?
“on cue playing the affirmative action card”.
what do you call it, when someone says a job can only be filled by a specific skin color and gender? how is that not a violation of anti discrimination law?
ones skin color and gender are random accidents. they don’t say anything about you. they don’t say anything about ones ability or character. sorry if that’s going too fast for you.
it’s very smart politics in that party. but that’s all it is. gives biden a political win which he desperately needs, and it’ll fire up his base.
pure politics. and he’s playing it well.
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01-28-2022, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
didn’t come close to answering the question.
what point is there to announcing years ahead of time, that only a narrow slice will even be considered? Not a history buff Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg died on September 18, 2020. The following day, Trump stated that any successor of Ginsburg would "most likely" be a woman.[COLOR="Blue"][/COLOR]
what if the best candidate is asian? was that the case with Trump's appointments your concern was abortion talk about Myopic what’s the upside, other than politics?
“on cue playing the affirmative action card”.
what do you call it, POTUS prerogative when someone says a job can only be filled by a specific skin color and gender?Who ever said that Jim ? Now Whos making up stuff again
how is that not a violation of anti discrimination law? clearly you're not a lawyer
ones skin color and gender are random accidents. they don’t say anything about you. they don’t say anything about ones ability or character. sorry if that’s going too fast for you. whats to fast is your upset before a choice has been made because you were told to be upset let that sink in
it’s very smart politics in that party. but that’s all it is. gives biden a political win which he desperately needs, and it’ll fire up his base.
pure politics. and he’s playing it well. Now you pivot back to its just Politics
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Ahh yes Jim Trump made campaign promises and you hailed him as a hero Fulfilling his promises .
Ronald Reagan fulfilled his 1980 campaign promise to place a woman on the Court, which he did with the appointment of Sandra Day O'Connor.
Biden does the same thing yet you cry about it .
ones skin color and gender are random accidents.
But OMG out of 115 justices, 110 (95.7%) have been men. All Supreme Court justices were males until 1981, So using your logic Jim Regan Put O Connor on the bench 1 for politics 2 Affirmative action 3 it don’t say anything about one's ability or character. or 4 what if the best candidate is asian?
One choice not on your list for Regan or Biden it's the right thing
and they checked all the boxes . Women, competence , experienced,
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01-28-2022, 07:42 AM
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Ahh yes Jim Trump made campaign promises and you hailed him as a hero Fulfilling his promises .
Ronald Reagan fulfilled his 1980 campaign promise to place a woman on the Court, which he did with the appointment of Sandra Day O'Connor.
Biden does the same thing yet you cry about it .
ones skin color and gender are random accidents.
But OMG out of 115 justices, 110 (95.7%) have been men. All Supreme Court justices were males until 1981, So using your logic Jim Regan Put O Connor on the bench 1 for politics 2 Affirmative action 3 it don’t say anything about one's ability or character. or 4 what if the best candidate is asian?
One choice not on your list for Regan or Biden it's the right thing
and they checked all the boxes . Women, competence , experienced,
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if your side is hurt that the court was all men 150 years ago, that’s the best evidence i’ve ever seen, that liberals really need to grow a pair. that’s how the world was then. we’ve fixed that.
i said here it was stupid for trump
to limit it to a woman, though Barrett is superbly qualified. it’s too important. you’re not going to catch me in stupid hypocrisy, that’s your playbook, not mine. you’re the one incapable of holding his side to any standards.
Some idiot on cable news said that clarence thomas doesn’t represent blacks on the court. FFS It’s not his job to represent blacks. it’s his job to represent the Constitution. How can gender or color matter?
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01-28-2022, 08:27 AM
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i said here it was stupid for trump
to limit it to a woman,
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these days..."woman" is not necessarily a "limit" particularly for the left as we know that a "woman" is anyone that says they are a woman
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01-28-2022, 08:31 AM
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Ronald Reagan fulfilled his 1980 campaign promise to place a woman on the Court, which he did with the appointment of Sandra Day O'Connor.
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imagine if Regan announced beforehand and specified.."white woman" 
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01-28-2022, 10:24 PM
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imagine if Regan announced beforehand and specified.."white woman" 
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When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.
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01-28-2022, 10:59 PM
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When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.
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Do you feel oppressed?
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01-29-2022, 08:39 AM
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[QUOTE=scottw;1221507]imagine if Regan announced beforehand and specified.."white woman"  [/QUOTE
We’re you asleep in the 80’s there were no other women but white woman in the conservatives world
Jimmy Carter He appointed more African-Americans in four years than Presidents Nixon, Ford, Reagan and Bush combined appointed in the course of nearly 20 years.
Keep enjoying your own version of history and white victim hood
That evil Biden said he was going to pick a Black women. How’s that not discrimination. Boo hoo
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01-29-2022, 08:53 AM
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[QUOTE=wdmso;1221565]
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imagine if Regan announced beforehand and specified.."white woman"  [/QUOTE
We’re you asleep in the 80’s there were no other women but white woman in the conservatives world
Jimmy Carter He appointed more African-Americans in four years than Presidents Nixon, Ford, Reagan and Bush combined appointed in the course of nearly 20 years.
Keep enjoying your own version of history and white victim hood
That evil Biden said he was going to pick a Black women. How’s that not discrimination. Boo hoo
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none of those presidents stated publicly they would exclude anyone based on color...biden stated publicly he'd exclude people, specifically "women" based on color..that's pretty racist
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01-28-2022, 03:21 AM
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Understand black and a woman and smart you and conservatives worse fears
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pretty sure most conservatives would be thrilled if Condoleeza Rice ran for president.....
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01-28-2022, 06:20 AM
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pretty sure most conservatives would be thrilled if Condoleeza Rice ran for president.....
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he has to accuse me of bigotry, it’s all he has.
Been saying for 10 years the country needs Condaleeza Rice to be potus.
oh, the left would show how much they love black women then.
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01-28-2022, 06:19 AM
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But I. Understand black and a woman and smart you and conservatives worse fears
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this stuff is over your head wayne…
biden announced two years ago that it’s be a black woman. When he said that, he had absolutely no way of knowing when the vacancy would be, or who the best candidates would be to fill it.
See if you can follow…you pick the best candidate for a job that important, regardless of skin color and genitalia.
pure politics. and it’s very shrewd. His presidency has been a flop, and he needs a win, and this gives him one. Breyer could have demanded. trillion dollars to resign, and he’s have gotten it. The democrats need this win badly, and they’ll get it.
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01-28-2022, 06:53 AM
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this stuff is over your head wayne…
biden announced two years ago that it’s be a black woman. When he said that, he had absolutely no way of knowing when the vacancy would be, or who the best candidates would be to fill it.
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consider the motivation...
he announced it when his campaign was crashing and he desperately needed SC so Clyburn told him he's support him if he stated this...he announced it during a debate after Clyburn approached him during a break in that debate and reminded him that he needed to announce it...
"Rep. James Clyburn rushed backstage during a Democratic presidential primary debate to remind Joe Biden, then a candidate, to make public his private commitment that his first Supreme Court appointment would be a Black woman, according to a book published last year.
The episode has newfound relevance given that Biden is likely to name his first Supreme Court pick in a matter of days. Justice Stephen Breyer, the most senior member of the court's liberal wing, will soon announce his retirement, according to multiple reports.
"During the last commercial break, Clyburn hurried backstage. Remember to promise to appoint a Black woman to the Supreme Court, he urged the candidate. Biden, who was trying so hard to get his footing in the debate that he let slip that he'd just call [former President] Obama for a pep talk, was frightened of forgetting it again," CNN's Edward-Isaac Dovere writes in "Battle for the Soul: Inside the Democrats' Campaigns to Defeat Trump."
Biden then made his vow in response to the first question he received after the commercial break during the February 25, 2021, debate, the last one between the Democratic presidential hopefuls before the South Carolina primary and Super Tuesday. Clyburn, an influential South Carolina Democrat and now House majority whip, announced his game-changing endorsement the day after the debate."
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