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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

“the war on poverty is over and a success.”

Paul, i can find someone who will
write that i am the spitting image of Brad Pitt and post it. That doesn’t make it so.

You’re waaay too smart to believe that. Take a drive through bridgeport or hartford, tell
me we successfully won the war on poverty. Ask any public schoolteacher in any urban school if poverty has been defeated.No One said it was "defeated". You said a "reduction".


I’ve lived in CT my whole life. The cities are far worse today, then when i was a kid. And they keep getting worse. They keep getting worse, because of fatherlessness and culture. Lack of money has almost nothing to do with it. You don't fix a broken culture by mailing out bigger and bigger welfare checks.

If I post an article from someone saying that Pickett’s Charge at Gettysburg was a success, that doesn’t make it so.
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Poor People's lives are much better now than they were in the 60s - not good, but better.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Poor People's lives are much better now than they were in the 60s - not good, but better.

"No One said it was "defeated"

You quoted this..."the War on Poverty launched by President Lyndon Johnson in 1964 is “largely over and a success.” Maybe I misinterpreted that, fair enough.

"Poor People's lives are much better now than they were in the 60s - not good, but better."

Not a chance. Sure, you can play with what defines "poverty" and come up with a statistic that shows that fewer people are below it, and maybe (hopefully) things like life expectancy are better for poor people today than they were 50 years ago. And maybe "poor people" today are more likely to have air conditioning, cell phones, material things I guess. And hopefully more have access to healthcare.

But again, I lived just outside of New Haven for decades, and worked in downtown Hartford for almost 15 years. Today, those places look like they can't be in America, you'd swear you were in Haiti or Somalia.

I don't think you'd find a single public schoolteacjher who has spent decades in a big city, who'd say that the socioeconomics of their students is better today than 35 years ago.

The quality of life enjoyed by our poorest children, will move in almost exact correlation with the rates of fatherlessness in those communities. As fatherlessness has exploded, so has the socioeconomic quality of life deteriorated.

Id actually love to see a poll done by all the teachers in the biggest cities who have bene there for decades, to comment on whether they see improvements or deterioration.

[scottw]

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The quality of life enjoyed by our poorest children

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parents won't feed them... poverty is so good these days that schools must feed them breakfast and lunch every day including summer or they would starve to death

did poor parents feed their kids back in the 60's or did they just starve to death on the street?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"No One said it was "defeated"

You quoted this..."the War on Poverty launched by President Lyndon Johnson in 1964 is “largely over and a success.” Maybe I misinterpreted that, fair enough.

"Poor People's lives are much better now than they were in the 60s - not good, but better."

Not a chance. Sure, you can play with what defines "poverty" and come up with a statistic that shows that fewer people are below it, and maybe (hopefully) things like life expectancy are better for poor people today than they were 50 years ago. And maybe "poor people" today are more likely to have air conditioning, cell phones, material things I guess. And hopefully more have access to healthcare.

But again, I lived just outside of New Haven for decades, and worked in downtown Hartford for almost 15 years. Today, those places look like they can't be in America, you'd swear you were in Haiti or Somalia.

I don't think you'd find a single public schoolteacjher who has spent decades in a big city, who'd say that the socioeconomics of their students is better today than 35 years ago.

The quality of life enjoyed by our poorest children, will move in almost exact correlation with the rates of fatherlessness in those communities. As fatherlessness has exploded, so has the socioeconomic quality of life deteriorated.

Id actually love to see a poll done by all the teachers in the biggest cities who have bene there for decades, to comment on whether they see improvements or deterioration.

You said a reduction in poverty and I showed you there has been a reduction in poverty.

N.H. is far better than it was in the past (and I lived in the NH area for years). Hartford too (I worked there 20 years). Parts of America (Kent, WV, Appalachia, Miss. etc) had no sewers, running water, electricity and people lived in tin huts. Schools are better for those people. Food security is better.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

You said a reduction in poverty and I showed you there has been a reduction in poverty.

N.H. is far better than it was in the past (and I lived in the NH area for years). Hartford too (I worked there 20 years). Parts of America (Kent, WV, Appalachia, Miss. etc) had no sewers, running water, electricity and people lived in tin huts. Schools are better for those people. Food security is better.

"You said a reduction in poverty and I showed you there has been a reduction in poverty."

True enough.

"N.H. is far better than it was in the past (and I lived in the NH area for years). Hartford too (I worked there 20 years)"

I guess it depends on when you're comparing today to. If you're comparing today to the time of the Great Depression, sure it's better today. If you're comparing today to 20 years ago, I just don't see how you could say that it's in any way better. The cities are way more dysfunctional.

Again, it would be interesting to see what cops or teachers, who've been there for decades, would say. Maybe I'm thinking more of social/family dysfunctionality than wealth/poverty, I don't know.

I do know that when I grew up in west Haven, we only had one car which my dad usually drove to work. When I was really little, for a treat my mom would walk us to the bus stop, we'd take the bus to New Haven, have lunch, maybe pick out a toy at the toy store. We wouldn't think of doing that today. It would be way too dangerous and unpleasant.

In the 15 years I worked in downtown Hartford, the blight, the aggressive panhandling, was way way worse at the end of my time, than the beginning. There were times I felt like I was walking in Haiti.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Parts of America (Kent, WV, Appalachia, Miss. etc) had no sewers, running water, electricity and people lived in tin huts. Schools are better for those people. Food security is better.

it's almost like the current tent cities in democrat cities across America

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Poor People's lives are much better now than they were in the 60s - not good, but better.

this is correct, we have color tv instead of black and white