when did democrats start opposing the fillibuster?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

The reason the Ds want to remove the filibuster is bc the Rs want to limit people's ability to vote (Intent). That shows how unprincipled and frankly sleazy the current Rs. are.

yes, we want to ensure that the people who vote, are who they claim to be. What a “sleazy” thing to aspire to.

Biden gave his speech in GA, the liberal ground zero for alleged voter suppression. Except they allow more early voting days than. ideas home state of Deleware. and if showing an if to get an absentee ballot is so bad, why does MN do it?

Paul, are you ok with checking signatures to verify absentee ballots? How many people are actually properly trained to compare signatures?

I live in Ct, and every year they check my id to vote. I can’t vote unless i show it. Why is that requirement only racist when certain states do it?


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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

yes, we want to ensure that the people who vote, are who they claim to be. What a “sleazy” thing to aspire to.



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And yet they can't find any real fraud. The rare fraud they do find seems to be old white guys who are registered as Rs and vote twice.

You're big on "Intent" and we both know what the intent of these numerous laws are - to make it more difficult for people to vote. That is as sleazy as it gets.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

And yet they can't find any real fraud. The rare fraud they do find seems to be old white guys who are registered as Rs and vote twice.

You're big on "Intent" and we both know what the intent of these numerous laws are - to make it more difficult for people to vote. That is as sleazy as it gets.

there’s some fraud. why not address it? isn’t less fraud always better than more fraud?

i’m big on intent. like people who oppose drug tests, it’s hard for
me to not be suspicious of those who oppose something as obvious as requiring IDs. both sides are trying to gain arvantage. i don’t buy that requiring IDs meaningfully suppresses the vote. there are too many every day things we need id for, to convince me that huge numbers of people
don’t have them.

you chose not to answer the questions i asked. how effective is it to look at signatures on absentee ballots? how many people are really trained to analyze signatures.

and if ID requirements are racist, why does my Ct suburb require them? i assume
that’s a state law, not a town thing? they will not let me vote without showing ID.
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