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[wdmso]

Seeing Trump bailed on his Jan 6th event no worries for our resident jan6 th minimizers. They Can tune in to

Newsmax to Air 'Day of Outrage' for Jan. 6 Anniversary. Day of Outrage” was produced by Newsmax to accurately and fairly detail the events related to the Capitol siege of Jan. 6.

With the following guests

The program includes exclusive interviews with Greg Kelly, who is the host of "Greg Kelly Reports"; Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Donald Trump; Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga.; Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas; retired Marine Gunnery Sgt. Jessie Jane Duff; Senior Analyst for Strategy at the Center for Security Policy J. Michael Waller; Ashli Babbitt’s mom Micki Witthoeft; Babbitt’s husband, Aaron; Jan. 6 detainee Kenneth Harrelson’s wife, Angel; former detainee Chris Worrell’s fiancée, Trish Priller; and business owner Roberto Minuta.

I am sure these speakers will fill you ears with a recurring theme you all ready believe. … Nothing happened. What you saw was a peaceful protest being twisted by liberals to discredit Republicans and peaceful protesters

And presented no threat to American Democracy then or in the future


But this guest is my favorite. Ashli Babbitt’s mom. She’s upset that Pelosi, Feinstein won’t speak to her about her daughter death but Trump has , Of course he has! Our POTUS supporting someone who attacked the capital in his name. Lol

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Seeing Trump bailed on his Jan 6th event no worries for our resident jan6 th minimizers. They Can tune in to

Newsmax to Air 'Day of Outrage' for Jan. 6 Anniversary. Day of Outrage” was produced by Newsmax to accurately and fairly detail the events related to the Capitol siege of Jan. 6.

With the following guests

The program includes exclusive interviews with Greg Kelly, who is the host of "Greg Kelly Reports"; Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Donald Trump; Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga.; Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas; retired Marine Gunnery Sgt. Jessie Jane Duff; Senior Analyst for Strategy at the Center for Security Policy J. Michael Waller; Ashli Babbitt’s mom Micki Witthoeft; Babbitt’s husband, Aaron; Jan. 6 detainee Kenneth Harrelson’s wife, Angel; former detainee Chris Worrell’s fiancée, Trish Priller; and business owner Roberto Minuta.

I am sure these speakers will fill you ears with a recurring theme you all ready believe. … Nothing happened. What you saw was a peaceful protest being twisted by liberals to discredit Republicans and peaceful protesters

And presented no threat to American Democracy then or in the future


But this guest is my favorite. Ashli Babbitt’s mom. She’s upset that Pelosi, Feinstein won’t speak to her about her daughter death but Trump has , Of course he has! Our POTUS supporting someone who attacked the capital in his name. Lol

Ashley Babbit was unarmed, and killed for the crime of trespassing, by a cop with a documented history of being stupidly reckless with his firearm.

she was a white trumper, killed by a black cop, which is exactly why the left ignores her death. if she was a black gang banger killed by a white cop in a questionable shooting then the left would care. there’d be riots, speeches by al sharpton, etc.

it’s all politics. the left is making january 6 out to be more than it was, the right wa td to pretend it never happened.
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[nightfighter]

Ashley Babbit was unarmed, and killed for the crime of trespassing, by a cop with a documented history of being stupidly reckless with his firearm.

This is totally out of context thinking, IMHO. She was at the very front of the force about to breach the chamber... I am more surprised by the restraint shown by all others who were defending the Capital and were armed... I would have been firing before the force reached the top of the stairs.
And there is more to the Ashley Babbit story than her just being the victim here. She used her vehicle to ram the vehicle of the woman who was in a six year relationship with the man she was sleeping with. So given her record, I am sure she could easily slip into presenting as a threatening member of the attacking force. Good shoot IMO. She put herself there...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

Ashley Babbit was unarmed, and killed for the crime of trespassing, by a cop with a documented history of being stupidly reckless with his firearm.

This is totally out of context thinking, IMHO. She was at the very front of the force about to breach the chamber... I am more surprised by the restraint shown by all others who were defending the Capital and were armed... I would have been firing before the force reached the top of the stairs.
And there is more to the Ashley Babbit story than her just being the victim here. She used her vehicle to ram the vehicle of the woman who was in a six year relationship with the man she was sleeping with. So given her record, I am sure she could easily slip into presenting as a threatening member of the attacking force. Good shoot IMO. She put herself there...

and whose life was in immediate danger if she breached the chamber? could she have launched nukes from there?

“i would have been firing”

yeah yeah yeah.

officer kim potter is facing 15 years for an honest mistake in a deadly situation created by a criminal. . but this cop is a hero.

makes all kinds of sense.

was stupid for her to break
in, so so stupid.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

and whose life was in immediate danger if she breached the chamber?

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you know that if she was protesting/rioting for a leftist cause these guys would be losing their minds over her senseless murder and condemning the police

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

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officer kim potter is facing 15 years for an honest mistake in a deadly situation created by a criminal
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So her intent should be taken into account as it was an honest mistake (I agree it was a mistake) and her intent was not to shoot the kid. So intent matters (which I agree with).

But somehow it doesn't matter when 7 electors didn't vote for whom they were supposed to vote for bc intent doesn't matter in this instance. Got it.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

Ashley Babbit was unarmed, and killed for the crime of trespassing, by a cop with a documented history of being stupidly reckless with his firearm.

This is totally out of context thinking, IMHO. She was at the very front of the force about to breach the chamber... I am more surprised by the restraint shown by all others who were defending the Capital and were armed... I would have been firing before the force reached the top of the stairs.
And there is more to the Ashley Babbit story than her just being the victim here. She used her vehicle to ram the vehicle of the woman who was in a six year relationship with the man she was sleeping with. So given her record, I am sure she could easily slip into presenting as a threatening member of the attacking force. Good shoot IMO. She put herself there...

I too am amazed at the restraint of the officers that day. She was a crazy woman.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I too am amazed at the restraint of the officers that day. She was a crazy woman.

I guess in future at "mostly peaceful protests" and riots it will be ok if the police bust out the live rounds and take down any un-armed protesters that get out of hand and start damaging stuff.....

[nightfighter]

Originally Posted by scottw

I guess in future at "mostly peaceful protests" and riots it will be ok if the police bust out the live rounds and take down any un-armed protesters that get out of hand and start damaging stuff.....

You are better than this, aren't you?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

You are better than this, aren't you?

I saw some...actually... a lot ....of very violent attacks on police and military members the summer prior and they didn't fire any bullets

this was an unarmed woman, and maybe she was mentally unstable, but I thought that was a reason not to shoot someone, particularly if they are unarmed

I'm not defending her, I believe what happened to her was the result of bad decisions she made that day just as many police shootings are the result of bad decisions made by those that get themselves shot...it's just amazing to see the response of some to her killing....

[nightfighter]

This is worth watching. Frontline Season 2021 episode 7 American insurrection.


https://www.pbs.org/video/american-insurrection-ozor8y/

While I clearly saw the bias from the get-go, I feel it connects the dots enough to assign blame for the abject results of Jan 6. The justification of violence by these militias and far right factions are painting some of you in this discussion with the same broad stoke.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

[B]

Ashley Babbit was unarmed,

. She was at the very front of the force about to breach the chamber...

...

would you say this "force" was more like Delta Force or Space Force?

[nightfighter]

Originally Posted by scottw

would you say this "force" was more like Delta Force or Space Force?

You're a dope....and a gaslighter. The force that overran the Capitol Police, whose job it is to protect and defend the Capitol and members of Congress.

[scottw]

[QUOTE=nightfighter;1220079

....and a gaslighter.

[/QUOTE]

this is already WAY overused....

[nightfighter]

Originally Posted by scottw

this is already WAY overused....

Agreed. As are the arguments and justifications for actions we are discussing in these recent pages.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

[B]

.. I would have been firing before the force reached the top of the stairs.

...

how many do you think you could take out?

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

Ashley Babbit was unarmed, and killed for the crime of trespassing, by a cop with a documented history of being stupidly reckless with his firearm.

This is totally out of context thinking, IMHO. She was at the very front of the force about to breach the chamber... I am more surprised by the restraint shown by all others who were defending the Capital and were armed... I would have been firing before the force reached the top of the stairs.
And there is more to the Ashley Babbit story than her just being the victim here. She used her vehicle to ram the vehicle of the woman who was in a six year relationship with the man she was sleeping with. So given her record, I am sure she could easily slip into presenting as a threatening member of the attacking force. Good shoot IMO. She put herself there...

Sometimes things are not what they appear to be . . . and there is evidence that Ashley Babbit was not the villain you think she was. Maybe she was not a threatening member of the attacking force. Could be that she wanted to stop any "attack." And did not deserve to be shot:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/ashli-...wCZ7F6fdBUPMTd

[scottw]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Sometimes things are not what they appear to be . . . and there is evidence that Ashley Babbit was not the villain you think she was. Maybe she was not a threatening member of the attacking force. Could be that she wanted to stop any "attack." And did not deserve to be shot:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/ashli-...wCZ7F6fdBUPMTd

Originally Posted by nightfighter View Post

I am more surprised by the restraint shown by all others who were defending the Capital and were armed... I would have been firing before the force reached the top of the stairs.


^^^ this actually sounds like something a crazy militia member might fantasize about....he must have missed all of the restraint by armed police officers during the 574 riots during the summer of love

we've had some here criticize police for discharging their guns when they had guns, tasers, knives, vehicles pointed at them....what was Ashley pointing at this officer that threatened him?


If this had been the Federal Courthouse in Portland and protesters had broken a window and were climbing through and a cop shot an unarmed woman climbing through the window and killed her...do you think it might have been portrayed a bit differently by the usual suspects ?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

.what was Ashley pointing at this officer that threatened him?


?

the cop who killed her, testified to congress that he couldn’t see her hands at the time he’s got her to death.

where is the argument that she posed an immediate and lethal threat to anyone at that moment?
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Ashley Babbit was unarmed, and killed for the crime of trespassing, by a cop with a documented history of being stupidly reckless with his firearm.

she was a white trumper, killed by a black cop, which is exactly why the left ignores her death. if she was a black gang banger killed by a white cop in a questionable shooting then the left would care. there’d be riots, speeches by al sharpton, etc.

it’s all politics. the left is making january 6 out to be more than it was, the right wa td to pretend it never happened.
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It’s just politics sure that’s all it is


Rep. Greene to Newsmax: Dems Trying to 'Brainwash the Public' About Jan. 6
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