Lie-awatha is at it again

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

she’s got as much indian blood as many, many people who don’t claim to be native american. she made that claim, in an application for a job at harvard paying $400,000 a year.

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She has Indian blood and it is HER choice to state if she recognizes as Indian or not. If others don't want to, it is up to them.

So Harvard hired her bc she said she was an Indian and not bc she had a law degree and had taught at other schools? Can you pls. show me doc. where Harvard said that?

How did she make "tons of money off college students"? Was she selling them things?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

She has Indian blood and it is HER choice to state if she recognizes as Indian or not. If others don't want to, it is up to them.

So Harvard hired her bc she said she was an Indian and not bc she had a law degree and had taught at other schools? Can you pls. show me doc. where Harvard said that?

How did she make "tons of money off college students"? Was she selling them things?

i can show you a document where harvard bragged about having a native american on the law school faculty. they get a ton of applicants for a $400,000 a year gig at harvard. an immoral paleface might look for reasons to stick out among the applicant pool.

you always require written proof of things before you’ll believe it? always? or only when someone is questioning the ethics of a democrat?

i see you completely ignored my question about her hypocrisy on profiting from college students and foreclosed homes. How come?
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i can show you a document where harvard bragged about having a native american on the law school faculty. they get a ton of applicants for a $400,000 a year gig at harvard. an immoral paleface might look for reasons to stick out among the applicant pool.

Actually she was recruited for the position because of her stellar resume. The checked the Native American box for the directory after she was hired. The two main people who recommended Harvard hire her were interview and said that no idea of any claimed native heritage.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i can show you a document where harvard bragged about having a native american on the law school facultybut you are claiming something else - that she was hired BECAUSE she claimed she was Indian. . they get a ton of applicants for a $400,000 a year gig at harvard. an immoral paleface might look for reasons to stick out among the applicant pool.

you always require written proof of things before you’ll believe it? always? or only when someone is questioning the ethics of a democrat? Well, you're making the accusation but don't seem to have any (zero) proof of the claim.

i see you completely ignored my question about her hypocrisy on profiting from college students and foreclosed homes. How come?
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Well first of all I really don't like responding to you bc of the way you post. I don't think you and I would ever be friends.

So bc she was paid 400k she was "making tons of money off college students". So can we assume you made tons of money off grammer/high school students when you were a teacher?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Well first of all I really don't like responding to you bc of the way you post. I don't think you and I would ever be friends.

So bc she was paid 400k she was "making tons of money off college students". So can we assume you made tons of money off grammer/high school students when you were a teacher?

"Well first of all I really don't like responding to you bc of the way you post."

You responded to part of it, and ignored my question. Was my question offensive? I'm very sorry.

"So can we assume you made tons of money off grammer/high school students when you were a teacher?"

I didn't make $400,000 a year for working part time, teaching one class I believe. I made good money with ridiculous benefits, but I don't know that anyone would say I was making what she was making..

You dodged my question for a second time, which means you know you can't respond, but you can't bring yourself to admit what we all know, that she will demonize people for doing exactly what she herself has done.

Maybe a different question is more palatable to you?...would you call Elon Musk ( who helped create 71,000 jobs in this country, and who will pay more than $10 billion in income taxes for 2021, a "freeloader"?

What has Warren done, which can compare to that?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I didn't make $400,000 a year for working part time, teaching one class I believe. I made good money with ridiculous benefits, but I don't know that anyone would say I was making what she was making..
No, but you yourself admit you made good compensation - teaching 1 (?) class at the grammer school level w/o a law degree and prior experience at other schools (and not at the elite college level). Would it be appropriate for a person making min. wage to claim you were "making tons of money off grammer school kids" as they could consider your pay outrageous? Sounds like you and Warren were paid the standard rate for their position based on the need and your experience. Plus if the position was endowed the students tuition didn't go towards her salary.
You dodged my question for a second time, which means you know you can't respond, but you can't bring yourself to admit what we all know, that she will demonize people for doing exactly what she herself has done.

Maybe a different question is more palatable to you?...would you call Elon Musk ( who helped create 71,000 jobs in this country, and who will pay more than $10 billion in income taxes for 2021, a "freeloader"?

What has Warren done, which can compare to that?

Well what has anyone else done that can compare to Musk?

I agree w/her that the rich don't pay their fair share by how many accumulate their wealth (stock), borrow against it and never pay their fair share in taxes. I don't agree with the proposal to tax wealth but something has to be be done. What did he pay in taxes in 2020 prior to selling billions of stock?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Well what has anyone else done that can compare to Musk?

I agree w/her that the rich don't pay their fair share by how many accumulate their wealth (stock), borrow against it and never pay their fair share in taxes. I don't agree with the proposal to tax wealth but something has to be be done. What did he pay in taxes in 2020 prior to selling billions of stock?

"you yourself admit you made good compensation"

I htink I made about $40k a year when I stopped. One tenth of Warren.

"teaching 1 (?) class at the grammer school level "

No, sorry, SHE taught one class (I believe) at Harvard when she was making 400k.

Paul, here's the difference.. I wasn't telling others doing what I did, that they were evil. Warren did that. She said it was immoral to profit from students taking out loans. Yes she did exactly that, she profited quite nicely.

"if the position was endowed the students tuition didn't go towards here salary."

Cash is fungible, come on. You can't say any one kids tuition goes to any one expense.


"what has anyone else done that can compare to Musk?"


"Everyone else" isn't calling him a freeloader.

I tried a few times, you keep dodging. You don't usually do that like this.

Have a great holiday, hope you are all happy and safe.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"you yourself admit you made good compensation"

I htink I made about $40k a year when I stopped. One tenth of Warren.

"teaching 1 (?) class at the grammer school level "

No, sorry, SHE taught one class (I believe) at Harvard when she was making 400k.

Paul, here's the difference.. I wasn't telling others doing what I did, that they were evil. Warren did that. She said it was immoral to profit from students taking out loans. Yes she did exactly that, she profited quite nicely.

"if the position was endowed the students tuition didn't go towards here salary."

Cash is fungible, come on. You can't say any one kids tuition goes to any one expense.


"what has anyone else done that can compare to Musk?"


"Everyone else" isn't calling him a freeloader.

I tried a few times, you keep dodging. You don't usually do that like this.

Have a great holiday, hope you are all happy and safe.

Sorry I thought you had said you taught one class. It doesn't change the fact that both you and Warren were paid appropriately for your positions. That apparently is the going rate for college professors. And also the going rate for teachers. So unless other teachers teaching one class at Harvard with that experience were making less money it should be a non-issue. Plus there does not appear to be any proof at all that she got her position due to the fact that she was Native American. Thank you, you too have a Merry Christmas
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

What did he pay in taxes in 2020 prior to selling billions of stock?

he paid what he owed. $0.


there’s no taxable income until you liquidate an asset.

We’re getting $11 billion from one guy. That’s not enough?

if you have a house, it’s worth a lot right now. you should have to pay taxes on that, before you sell it?
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i can show you a document where harvard bragged about having a native american on the law school faculty. they get a ton of applicants for a $400,000 a year gig at harvard. an immoral paleface might look for reasons to stick out among the applicant pool.

you always require written proof of things before you’ll believe it? always? or only when someone is questioning the ethics of a democrat?

i see you completely ignored my question about her hypocrisy on profiting from college students and foreclosed homes. How come?
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Ah, Stable Genius II
She was sitting in an endowed chair and bought several homes that people unfortunately lost and sold them to her family.
Now tell us how as a purportedly rational person you decried that behavior and then support Mnuchin, or is he another guy you don’t really like
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Ah, Stable Genius II
She was sitting in an endowed chair and bought several homes that people unfortunately lost and sold them to her family.
Now tell us how as a purportedly rational person you decried that behavior and then support Mnuchin, or is he another guy you don’t really like
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"She was sitting in an endowed chair and bought several homes that people unfortunately lost and sold them to her family."

Which is fine.

The problem is, she attached banks for doing the same thing she did. She also got very rich off the backs of students who took out loans to pay her massive salary, but again, she says it's immoral for anyone else to profit off student loans.

No hypocrisy there? None?

"then support Mnuchin"

I generally have no use for Manchin (is that you you mean?), he talks like a Republican at home to get votes, then goes to DC and votes like Chuck Schumer. I don't like him, but I'm glad he torpedoed this bill. Though I'd bet he's holding out for more pork for WV, I don't believe he actually voted on principle. He has positioned himself as the most powerful person in the country right now. Even the president has to kiss his ring.

But I doubt you were critical of McCain when he killed Republican attempts to revise Obamacare. If that's heroic, so is what Manchin did. What's good for the goose...

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"She was sitting in an endowed chair and bought several homes that people unfortunately lost and sold them to her family."

Which is fine.

Actually she was buying them for family to renovate and resell because they apparently couldn't get the loans on their own. I'm not sure she even really made much money doing it.

The problem is, she attached banks for doing the same thing she did.

SHE DID NOT

Please Jim, if you're so objective as you say do a little homework.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Actually she was buying them for family to renovate and resell because they apparently couldn't get the loans on their own. I'm not sure she even really made much money doing it.


SHE DID NOT

Please Jim, if you're so objective as you say do a little homework.

Christ you are laughably wrong on this one...

"Actually she was buying them for family to renovate and resell because they apparently couldn't get the loans on their own. I'm not sure she even really made much money doing it."

From the article below...

One such property she bought for $30,000, then sold for $145,000 five months later, a 383 per cent mark-up.

Sooo, either you are ignorant, or lying, or you don't consider a 383% return in 5 months to be "much".

That's one of many properties.

"SHE DID NOT"

Well, you have it in CAPS, and that bestows instant credibility on any falsehood, right?

She called the mortgage industry a "deregulated credit industry (that) squeezed families harder, hawking dangerous mortgages"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...sed-homes.html

Here, poor Warren claims that the foreclosures "threaten our economy".

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/...ryId=101611260

So those "dangerous mortgages" were swell when they benefitted her.

SHE DID DO. NYAH, NYAH, NYAH.

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Sooo, either you are ignorant, or lying, or you don't consider a 383% return in 5 months to be "much".

I'm astounded you're trusted with numbers at work. It's not a 383% return. Take out the lending feeds, materials, labor and insurance to do the work and the net return is a fraction of this. As most of these houses were bought to family to renovate it's worth assuming they enjoyed most if not all of the profit.

She called the mortgage industry a "deregulated credit industry (that) squeezed families harder, hawking dangerous mortgages"

Which they were.

Here, poor Warren claims that the foreclosures "threaten our economy".

So those "dangerous mortgages" were swell when they benefitted

My last post on this, the banks were making predatory loans then aggressively foreclosing on people who couldn't afford it. This is nothing like what Warren was doing.

If you can't grasp this I'm astounded, again.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"She was sitting in an endowed chair and bought several homes that people unfortunately lost and sold them to her family."

Which is fine.

The problem is, she attached banks for doing the same thing she did. She also got very rich off the backs of students who took out loans to pay her massive salary, but again, she says it's immoral for anyone else to profit off student loans.

No hypocrisy there? None?

"then support Mnuchin"

I generally have no use for Manchin (is that you you mean?), he talks like a Republican at home to get votes, then goes to DC and votes like Chuck Schumer. I don't like him, but I'm glad he torpedoed this bill. Though I'd bet he's holding out for more pork for WV, I don't believe he actually voted on principle. He has positioned himself as the most powerful person in the country right now. Even the president has to kiss his ring.

But I doubt you were critical of McCain when he killed Republican attempts to revise Obamacare. If that's heroic, so is what Manchin did. What's good for the goose...

First of all she didn’t make her money thru flipping foreclosures.
And an endowed chair is funded thru an endowment, not tuition and the person is chosen because of their status in their field.

Mnuchin was the guy who was called the foreclosure king.
During Mnuchin’s reign, IndyMac carried out more than 36,000 foreclosures, tossing former homeowners (including active duty military servicemen and women) onto the street without hesitation or pity by any means necessary. According to a memo obtained by investigative reporter David Dayen, OneWest, the new name that Mnuchin and his billionaire posse coined for Indybank, of which Mnuchin was now CEO and chairman, “rushed delinquent homeowners out of their homes by violating notice and waiting period statutes, illegally backdated key documents, and effectively gamed foreclosure auctions.”

The Koch brothers still own a lot of real estate, but their best investment may be the Manchin they bought in West Virginia.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

First of all she didn’t make her money thru flipping foreclosures.
And an endowed chair is funded thru an endowment, not tuition and the person is chosen because of their status in their field.

Mnuchin was the guy who was called the foreclosure king.
During Mnuchin’s reign, IndyMac carried out more than 36,000 foreclosures, tossing former homeowners (including active duty military servicemen and women) onto the street without hesitation or pity by any means necessary. According to a memo obtained by investigative reporter David Dayen, OneWest, the new name that Mnuchin and his billionaire posse coined for Indybank, of which Mnuchin was now CEO and chairman, “rushed delinquent homeowners out of their homes by violating notice and waiting period statutes, illegally backdated key documents, and effectively gamed foreclosure auctions.”

The Koch brothers still own a lot of real estate, but their best investment may be the Manchin they bought in West Virginia.
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Pete, if someone follows the law, i don’t have a huge problem
with them flipping foreclosures. I have no problem
with Warren making money by flipping foreclosures. What i have a problem with, is when she says it’s evil when others do it.

if she can do it, so can everyone else.

And i have a huge problem with her calling someone a free loader who helped create 71,000 jobs in the US and who is going to pay $11 billion in federal income come tax in a year. He’s the exact opposite of a free loader, he’s contributing tons to the public good and taking little public money for himself. His money comes from smashing success in the free market.

Very few people who have ever lived, have been a better “deal” to the public, than he has.

Healthy people
who choose welfare over work are free loaders. Not Elan Musk. He’s a huge, huge, huge net positive for the public.
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