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11-10-2021, 06:04 PM
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The video in this article does a nice job of a reconstruction.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...s-down-crying/
So an underage kid carrying illegally is marching down the street like he's the boss, a guy with mental health issues throws a bag at him and even though he's armed with a semi automatic rifle he's so afraid he shoots him several times and then sprints away. The other people think he's an active shooter and try to intervene so he take them out as well.
This is lunacy, not self defense. Immature kid making very bad decisions needs to have some consequences.
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11-10-2021, 06:09 PM
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The video in this article does a nice job of a reconstruction.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...s-down-crying/
So an underage kid carrying illegally is marching down the street like he's the boss, a guy with mental health issues throws a bag at him and even though he's armed with a semi automatic rifle he's so afraid he shoots him several times and then sprints away. The other people think he's an active shooter and try to intervene so he take them out as well.
This is lunacy, not self defense. Immature kid making very bad decisions needs to have some consequences.
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Funny how you left this part out
“Richard McGinnis, a reporter who was trailing Rittenhouse, told investigators that Rosenbaum tried to grab Rittenhouse's gun, according to the criminal complaint.”
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11-10-2021, 06:23 PM
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Funny how you left this part out
“Richard McGinnis, a reporter who was trailing Rittenhouse, told investigators that Rosenbaum tried to grab Rittenhouse's gun, according to the criminal complaint.”
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If a vigilante is pushing a gun in your face don't you have a right to self defense?
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11-10-2021, 06:55 PM
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If a vigilante is pushing a gun in your face don't you have a right to self defense?
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Sure, but that’s not what happened
“Bystander video shows Rosenbaum chasing Rittenhouse through a parking lot and throwing a plastic bag at him. Rittenhouse flees behind a car and Rosenbaum follows.”
“Richard McGinnis, a reporter who was trailing Rittenhouse, told investigators that Rosenbaum tried to grab Rittenhouse's gun, according to the criminal complaint.”
If a mentally unstable man chases you and tries to take your gun away, you’re well within your rights to shoot him
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11-10-2021, 07:29 PM
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Sure, but that’s not what happened
“Bystander video shows Rosenbaum chasing Rittenhouse through a parking lot and throwing a plastic bag at him. Rittenhouse flees behind a car and Rosenbaum follows.”
“Richard McGinnis, a reporter who was trailing Rittenhouse, told investigators that Rosenbaum tried to grab Rittenhouse's gun, according to the criminal complaint.”
If a mentally unstable man chases you and tries to take your gun away, you’re well within your rights to shoot him
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this prosecution is a joke. a politically motivated joke. and they already saw someone taking photos of jurors, that’s not any kind of bad sign. they should dismiss the jurors and drop the charges.
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11-10-2021, 07:27 PM
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If a vigilante is pushing a gun in your face don't you have a right to self defense?
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you chose to leave that out, and got caught. what are you afraid would happen exactly, if you stopped putting a pro-liberal spin on every single thing you post? Seriously, what are you afraid of?
Rittenhouse didn’t go on a crazy shooting spree. the guy he shot who survived, testifies ( with supporting photo evidence) that rittenhouse had his rifle in his hands, but didn’t shoot the guy until
he pointed his gun at Rittenhouses face.
It was beyond stupid for Rittenhouse to go there with a rifle ( was he carrying illegally? is he charged with that?).
it’s also very dangerous to engage in violent riots for no good reason. that created the situation. maybe, just maybe, if prominent liberals
told the rioters to stand down instead of encouraging them, we also wouldn’t be having this conversation. if liberal
mayors and governors cared enough about public safety and less about political optics, they’d have called in the national guard to quell those riots, and vigilante wannabes wouldn’t have felt any need to step up.
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11-11-2021, 10:24 PM
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The video in this article does a nice job of a reconstruction.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...s-down-crying/
So an underage kid carrying illegally is marching down the street like he's the boss, a guy with mental health issues throws a bag at him and even though he's armed with a semi automatic rifle he's so afraid he shoots him several times and then sprints away. The other people think he's an active shooter and try to intervene so he take them out as well.
This is lunacy, not self defense. Immature kid making very bad decisions needs to have some consequences.
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you also left out that the guy said he was going to kill Rittenhouse.
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11-12-2021, 05:05 AM
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you also left out that the guy said he was going to kill Rittenhouse.
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the left and media lied and mischaracterized this entire thing as they've done with so many other things...they will continue to deny...it's a sickness
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11-12-2021, 05:08 AM
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This is lunacy, not self defense. Immature kid making very bad decisions needs to have some consequences.
the self-defense expert said it was self-defense...are you a self-defense expert?
criminals and lunatics running around attacking people that are not threatening them need to have some consequences....oooops....they did
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11-12-2021, 08:56 AM
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criminals and lunatics running around attacking people that are not threatening them need to have some consequences....oooops....they did
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11-12-2021, 07:11 AM
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the left and media lied and mischaracterized this entire thing as they've done with so many other things...they will continue to deny...it's a sickness
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it’s actually a well
coordinated plot, i think. but in 2016, that led to trump. who knows what it might lead to in 2022 and 2024.
spence, if someone points a loaded handgun at your forehead from 3 feet away, is it self defense?
if someone is smashing you in the neck and head with a skateboard, are you at risk of serious injury?
and if someone said they’re going to kill you and then tried to wrestle your gun away from you, there’s no argument for self defense?
we all know exactly what tune you’d be singing if rittenhouse was a black
kid who shot some of the january 6 rioters.
the reality of what happened here, isn’t even close to the way it was portrayed by democrats and the media. Not even close. There’s no such thing as “news” anymore. It was spun deliberately for political
reasons, and tney do that, because it works in lemmings like….well, you know who they are.
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11-12-2021, 08:06 AM
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the left and media lied and mischaracterized this entire thing as they've done with so many other things...they will continue to deny...it's a sickness
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And Derek Chauvin was just doing his Job…
But only the left and the media. Lie and mischaracterize things
More evidence right wing brainwashing is working
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11-12-2021, 08:16 AM
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And Derek Chauvin was just doing his Job…
But only the left and the media. Lie and mischaracterize things
More evidence right wing brainwashing is working
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what’s the longest you can go, before you respond to something that nobody said?
are you even aware of how often you do it? or what it means that you do it constantly?
One guy he shot, was pointing a gun at his head from a few feet away.
Another guy he shot, told Rittenhousebhebwas going to kill him, then friend to wrestle his gun away from him.
The third guy, was beating him in the head and neck with a skateboard.
Does that make Rittenhouse the skinhead murdered that your side desperately wants him to be?
you know you can’t win the facts of this case, so you go to a case where the facts are on your side. But the facts won’t always be in your side wayne. sorry to break it to you. sometimes the facts paint the conservative issue in a favorable light.
but like spence, you can’t accept that. not once, not ever. the left has to win every single time.
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11-12-2021, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
what’s the longest you can go, before you respond to something that nobody said?
are you even aware of how often you do it? or what it means that you do it constantly?
One guy he shot, was pointing a gun at his head from a few feet away.
Another guy he shot, told Rittenhousebhebwas going to kill him, then friend to wrestle his gun away from him.
The third guy, was beating him in the head and neck with a skateboard.
Does that make Rittenhouse the skinhead murdered that your side desperately wants him to be?
you know you can’t win the facts of this case, so you go to a case where the facts are on your side. But the facts won’t always be in your side wayne. sorry to break it to you. sometimes the facts paint the conservative issue in a favorable light.
but like spence, you can’t accept that. not once, not ever. the left has to win every single time.
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There you go again totally clueless to what the majority of the Maga universe was saying about his derek chauvin
Kyle Rittenhouse flashes white-power sign at bar while out on bond
https://nypost.com/2021/01/14/kyle-r...th-proud-boys/
Keep avoiding the real reason Rittenhouse was there and who influenced him..
If he was watching porn and play video game like normal 17year olds he would not be in this mess
But now he’s an example of how Josh Hawley Want conservative men to act he should be your new Savior
hand-wringing over pornography, another traditionalist subscribing to outdated gender norms by saying “a man is a father, a man is a husband, a man is someone who takes responsibility,” and another male politician cautioning that a supposed liberal attack on manhood was at the root of this rot.
Another example of fear and hysteria. By the GOP
It’s a daily thing
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11-12-2021, 02:15 PM
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There you go again totally clueless to what the majority of the Maga universe was saying about his derek chauvin
Kyle Rittenhouse flashes white-power sign at bar while out on bond
https://nypost.com/2021/01/14/kyle-r...th-proud-boys/
Keep avoiding the real reason Rittenhouse was there and who influenced him..
If he was watching porn and play video game like normal 17year olds he would not be in this mess
But now he’s an example of how Josh Hawley Want conservative men to act he should be your new Savior
hand-wringing over pornography, another traditionalist subscribing to outdated gender norms by saying “a man is a father, a man is a husband, a man is someone who takes responsibility,” and another male politician cautioning that a supposed liberal attack on manhood was at the root of this rot.
Another example of fear and hysteria. By the GOP
It’s a daily thing
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"Kyle Rittenhouse flashes white-power sign at bar while out on bond
https://nypost.com/2021/01/14/kyle-r...th-proud-boys/"
When was this? This was before anyone on the left said he was a white supremacist? If it was before anyone made that claim, you made a good point.
"Keep avoiding the real reason Rittenhouse was there and who influenced him.. "
I'm not a mind reader. He says he was there to help people defend property. His actions support that.
"If he was watching porn and play video game like normal 17year olds he would not be in this mess":
I said all along it was stupid for him to go there. Also, if town and state government did their job, there'd have been no riot he felt he needed to clean up. If liberals weren't protesting police brutality by burning down businesses of people who had nothing to do with police brutality, we also wouldn't be having this conversation. A lot of people screwed up royally before he got into his car. His parents must really be pieces of work.
"hand-wringing over pornography"
Not sure what that has to do with anything. But you're right, I don't generally like forcing children to look at porn.
"“a man is a father, a man is a husband, a man is someone who takes responsibility,”"
I have no idea who said that, but I agree with it.
"male politician cautioning that a supposed liberal attack on manhood was at the root of this rot."
Again, no idea who you mean. But liberalism is at the root cause of every politically-motivated riot in the last 40 years I can think of, except January 6. When liberals don't get their way, they riot. It will probably happen again with Rittenhouse.
The head of BLM in New York City said very specifically, "there will be fires, there will be bloodshed" if the new mayor tries to revert back to prior police tactics.
How is that not domestic terrorism? Parents who make the Nazi salute at a school board meeting are domestic terrorists, but not the head of BLM who said that?
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11-12-2021, 09:20 AM
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And Derek Chauvin was just doing his Job…
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isn't he in jail?
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