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11-04-2021, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
not my idea is for ages 8-12...
this is like teaching 8-12 or "encouraging them to connect with their heartbreak about" rape....rape/racism are not something on their radar...why not let these kids grow up loving and respecting their peers regardless of color instead of injecting racism and pointing out differences based on those at this age?
here some favorable reviews
"Not My Idea is a sincere look at racial hierarchies—usually unspoken"
Not My Idea: A Book About Whiteness is packed with information and context but avoids being preachy
Not My Idea a Book About Whiteness is a picture book about racism and racial justice, inviting white children and parents to become curious about racism
“Not My Idea Helping young white people dismantle white supremacy is urgently needed; this book is a primer on how to begin.”
again..8-12 year olds...probably can't spell hierarchies
there is quite a list of interesting books that target 8-12 year olds regarding race, sexuality etc....
it's a long way from Stars Upon Thars....
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and i haven’t heard education officials in Loudon deny that this book ( not my idea) is in classrooms. so we’re only wrong to the extent that it’s not all called CRT, but that’s clearly what it is. call it whatever you want. parents don’t care what it’s called, they just want it out of public schools. liberals want it in. that’s clearly a winning issue for republicans.
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11-04-2021, 09:59 AM
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Let me get this straight
White parents are fine with their children being exposed to a deadly, highly-communicable airborne disease which has killed 750,000 people in the U.S. alone, but teaching them the actual history of the U.S. is harmful to their kids. OK.
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11-04-2021, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Let me get this straight
White parents are fine with their children being exposed to a deadly, highly-communicable airborne disease which has killed 750,000 people in the U.S. alone, but teaching them the actual history of the U.S. is harmful to their kids. OK.
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if that's how you rationalize things...well.....
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11-04-2021, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
if that's how you rationalize things...well.....
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I suppose you're happier with this
GOP: Teachin' slavery was real is racist.
GOP: Blacks demandin' equality is racist.
GOP: There's no racism in America, except by minorities.
GOP: Bannin' books is good.
GOP: Nazi salutes are "free speech".
GOP: Violence to win elections is "patriotic.
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11-04-2021, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
I suppose you're happier with this
GOP: Teachin' slavery was real is racist.
GOP: Blacks demandin' equality is racist.
GOP: There's no racism in America, except by minorities.
GOP: Bannin' books is good.
GOP: Nazi salutes are "free speech".
GOP: Violence to win elections is "patriotic.
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show me a republican with influence, who is opposed to teaching about slavery. you literally just make stuff up out of thin air. i’d imagine that’s tiring.
here’s something that actually happened, something that actually took place. democrats claimed that people making the nazi salute, are domestic terrorists. that was in the school board letter .
you don’t think making the nazi salute is free speech? seriously? it should be a crime?
Your world is getting darker and darker Pete.
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11-04-2021, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
here’s something that actually happened, something that actually took place. democrats claimed that people making the nazi salute, are domestic terrorists. that was in the school board letter .
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This never happened Jim.
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11-04-2021, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
This never happened Jim.
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Are you saying that when the school board wrote the letter, and listed examples of things that might be domestic terrorism, that the nazi salute wasn't on the list? Is that what you're saying?
To the question on CRT not being in schools...Spence, can I teach Marxism, without ever mentioning Karl Marx? If I advocate for his ideals, isn't that advocating for Marxism?
CRT isn't a copyrighted name brand.
From Brittanica...
"critical race theory (CRT), intellectual and social movement and loosely organized framework of legal analysis based on the premise that race is not a natural, biologically grounded feature of physically distinct subgroups of human beings but a socially constructed (culturally invented) category that is used to oppress and exploit people of colour. Critical race theorists hold that racism is inherent in the law and legal institutions of the United States insofar as they function to create and maintain social, economic, and political inequalities between whites and nonwhites, especially African Americans. "
Anyone who teaches this theory, advocates for this theory, is teaching critical race theory. It doesn't matter what label you put on it. If I buy a bottle of coke and change the label, it's still coke inside the bottle.
This is such a stupid and intellectually lazy argument. And it won't help the left next November either.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/critical-race-theory
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11-04-2021, 10:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
I suppose you're happier with this
GOP: Teachin' slavery was real is racist.
GOP: Blacks demandin' equality is racist.
GOP: There's no racism in America, except by minorities.
GOP: Bannin' books is good.
GOP: Nazi salutes are "free speech".
GOP: Violence to win elections is "patriotic.
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
show me a republican with influence, who is opposed to teaching about slavery. you literally just make stuff up out of thin air. i’d imagine that’s tiring.
here’s something that actually happened, something that actually took place. democrats claimed that people making the nazi salute, are domestic terrorists. that was in the school board letter .
you don’t think making the nazi salute is free speech? seriously? it should be a crime?
Your world is getting darker and darker Pete.
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Once again you pick a couple of items out of a list, just like Rafael with his performance at the hearing.
Would you be upset if a teacher said this?
“Think about this. For 246 years, slavery was legal in America. It wasn’t made illegal until 154 years ago,” the 26-year-old teacher told the 23 students sitting before him at Fort Dodge Middle School. “So, what does that mean? It means slavery has been a part of America much longer than it hasn’t been a part of America.”
It is a simple observation, but it is also a revelatory way to think about slavery in America and its inextricable role in the country’s founding, evolution and present. Ours is a nation born as much in chains as in freedom. A century and a half after slavery was made illegal — and 400 years after the first documented arrival of enslaved people from Africa in Virginia — the trauma of this inherited disease lingers.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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11-04-2021, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
I suppose you're happier with this
GOP: Teachin' slavery was real is racist.
GOP: Blacks demandin' equality is racist.
GOP: There's no racism in America, except by minorities.
GOP: Bannin' books is good.
GOP: Nazi salutes are "free speech".
GOP: Violence to win elections is "patriotic.
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who in the GOP has ever said any of these things?
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11-04-2021, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
who in the GOP has ever said any of these things?
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Google is available for you to use
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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11-04-2021, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
who in the GOP has ever said any of these things?
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i’d agree that nazi salutes are free speech. the rest of that is looney tunes.
this is how liberals try to convince themselves that republicans actually think. if we actually believed any of that lunacy, it would be so
easy to dismiss and defeat us, and even if they lose occasionally, it’s virtuous to tell yourself you at least stood up to evil.
none of them has ever listened to a rational, decent conservative person. they’re too afraid to. because then they can no longer rely on the evil caricature of conservatives that they’ve created
his post there is very, very revealing. We’re all Darth Vader. .
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11-04-2021, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
i’d agree that nazi salutes are free speech. the rest of that is looney tunes.
this is how liberals try to convince themselves that republicans actually think. if we actually believed any of that lunacy, it would be so
easy to dismiss and defeat us, and even if they lose occasionally, it’s virtuous to tell yourself you at least stood up to evil.
none of them has ever listened to a rational, decent conservative person. they’re too afraid to. because then they can no longer rely on the evil caricature of conservatives that they’ve created
his post there is very, very revealing. We’re all Darth Vader. .
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You actually never listen to yourself if you think you fit as a rational, decent, conservative person.
Tell me how Liz Cheney is a RINO?
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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11-04-2021, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
i’d agree that nazi salutes are free speech. the rest of that is looney tunes.
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you'd better be careful reaching for something around pete...he might demand you be convicted of a war crime
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11-04-2021, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Let me get this straight
White parents are fine with their children being exposed to a deadly, highly-communicable airborne disease which has killed 750,000 people in the U.S. alone, but teaching them the actual history of the U.S. is harmful to their kids. OK.
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blacks have much lower vaccination rates
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