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Old 11-04-2021, 08:24 AM   #1
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I read an interview with the author of Not My Idea, interesting viewpoint.
Oddly enough, the same people who are upset that the Suess family pulled some titles from publication are upset that their children can read this book.

"I made a book for white children that encourages them to connect with their heartbreak about racism. I urge them to tune into their deepest instincts about justice—which I trust—and to nourish those instincts like bean sprouts in a milk carton. I assure them that racism is not their idea and they don’t need to defend it; they can be curious instead.

Rather than being curious about your own experience, you fuss at me about the book I made and how much it leaves to kids’ imaginations: They might not like themselves; they might think police only kill Black people; they might draw sweeping conclusions about white supremacy being evil.

I’m cool with all of that. As long as kids continue to be curious, those beliefs will shift. I want kids clued in on the fact that racism is a system, a setup, a game that has been rigged, and to let them know they get to choose how they want to be. The experience of race they most need to understand is their own. The people they most need to talk to about race are their own family members. That’s where I started and where I am content to stop."

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...llings/619087/

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Old 11-04-2021, 08:43 AM   #2
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not my idea is for ages 8-12...

this is like teaching 8-12 or "encouraging them to connect with their heartbreak about" rape....rape/racism are not something on their radar...why not let these kids grow up loving and respecting their peers regardless of color instead of injecting racism and pointing out differences based on those at this age?

here some favorable reviews

"Not My Idea is a sincere look at racial hierarchies—usually unspoken"

Not My Idea: A Book About Whiteness is packed with information and context but avoids being preachy

Not My Idea a Book About Whiteness is a picture book about racism and racial justice, inviting white children and parents to become curious about racism

“Not My Idea Helping young white people dismantle white supremacy is urgently needed; this book is a primer on how to begin.”

again..8-12 year olds...probably can't spell hierarchies

there is quite a list of interesting books that target 8-12 year olds regarding race, sexuality etc....

it's a long way from Stars Upon Thars....
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Old 11-04-2021, 09:33 AM   #3
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not my idea is for ages 8-12...

this is like teaching 8-12 or "encouraging them to connect with their heartbreak about" rape....rape/racism are not something on their radar...why not let these kids grow up loving and respecting their peers regardless of color instead of injecting racism and pointing out differences based on those at this age?

here some favorable reviews

"Not My Idea is a sincere look at racial hierarchies—usually unspoken"

Not My Idea: A Book About Whiteness is packed with information and context but avoids being preachy

Not My Idea a Book About Whiteness is a picture book about racism and racial justice, inviting white children and parents to become curious about racism

“Not My Idea Helping young white people dismantle white supremacy is urgently needed; this book is a primer on how to begin.”

again..8-12 year olds...probably can't spell hierarchies

there is quite a list of interesting books that target 8-12 year olds regarding race, sexuality etc....

it's a long way from Stars Upon Thars....
you made that all up.
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Old 11-04-2021, 09:50 AM   #4
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not my idea is for ages 8-12...

this is like teaching 8-12 or "encouraging them to connect with their heartbreak about" rape....rape/racism are not something on their radar...why not let these kids grow up loving and respecting their peers regardless of color instead of injecting racism and pointing out differences based on those at this age?

here some favorable reviews

"Not My Idea is a sincere look at racial hierarchies—usually unspoken"

Not My Idea: A Book About Whiteness is packed with information and context but avoids being preachy

Not My Idea a Book About Whiteness is a picture book about racism and racial justice, inviting white children and parents to become curious about racism

“Not My Idea Helping young white people dismantle white supremacy is urgently needed; this book is a primer on how to begin.”

again..8-12 year olds...probably can't spell hierarchies

there is quite a list of interesting books that target 8-12 year olds regarding race, sexuality etc....

it's a long way from Stars Upon Thars....
and i haven’t heard education officials in Loudon deny that this book ( not my idea) is in classrooms. so we’re only wrong to the extent that it’s not all called CRT, but that’s clearly what it is. call it whatever you want. parents don’t care what it’s called, they just want it out of public schools. liberals want it in. that’s clearly a winning issue for republicans.
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Old 11-04-2021, 09:59 AM   #5
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Let me get this straight
White parents are fine with their children being exposed to a deadly, highly-communicable airborne disease which has killed 750,000 people in the U.S. alone, but teaching them the actual history of the U.S. is harmful to their kids. OK.

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Old 11-04-2021, 10:10 AM   #6
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Let me get this straight
White parents are fine with their children being exposed to a deadly, highly-communicable airborne disease which has killed 750,000 people in the U.S. alone, but teaching them the actual history of the U.S. is harmful to their kids. OK.
if that's how you rationalize things...well.....
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Old 11-04-2021, 10:17 AM   #7
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if that's how you rationalize things...well.....
I suppose you're happier with this

GOP: Teachin' slavery was real is racist.

GOP: Blacks demandin' equality is racist.

GOP: There's no racism in America, except by minorities.

GOP: Bannin' books is good.

GOP: Nazi salutes are "free speech".

GOP: Violence to win elections is "patriotic.

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Old 11-04-2021, 10:19 AM   #8
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I suppose you're happier with this

GOP: Teachin' slavery was real is racist.

GOP: Blacks demandin' equality is racist.

GOP: There's no racism in America, except by minorities.

GOP: Bannin' books is good.

GOP: Nazi salutes are "free speech".

GOP: Violence to win elections is "patriotic.
show me a republican with influence, who is opposed to teaching about slavery. you literally just make stuff up out of thin air. i’d imagine that’s tiring.

here’s something that actually happened, something that actually took place. democrats claimed that people making the nazi salute, are domestic terrorists. that was in the school board letter .

you don’t think making the nazi salute is free speech? seriously? it should be a crime?

Your world is getting darker and darker Pete.


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Old 11-04-2021, 11:00 AM   #9
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I suppose you're happier with this

GOP: Teachin' slavery was real is racist.

GOP: Blacks demandin' equality is racist.

GOP: There's no racism in America, except by minorities.

GOP: Bannin' books is good.

GOP: Nazi salutes are "free speech".

GOP: Violence to win elections is "patriotic.
who in the GOP has ever said any of these things?
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Old 11-04-2021, 10:16 AM   #10
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Let me get this straight
White parents are fine with their children being exposed to a deadly, highly-communicable airborne disease which has killed 750,000 people in the U.S. alone, but teaching them the actual history of the U.S. is harmful to their kids. OK.
blacks have much lower vaccination rates
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