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Old 10-21-2021, 07:44 AM   #1
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Good God, Jim. My hope is when you are old and wiser, you will be able to look back and recognize how dangerous this man is....
I think Trump, on balance, is an awful human being. Awful.

But a record-number of Americans polled in 2020, said they were better off after 4 years of his presidency. Never before had that many Americans said they were better off after 4 years of a president (Gallup does this poll every 4 years). Which is why I say that even though he's personally bad, the policies he advocated for, are things that Americans liked.

I would not want to live in a country where Trump was a dictator, for sure. Then he'd potentially be dangerous. In our country, with the checks and balances, he's not really metaphysically dangerous.

I don't recall Trump's justice department flagging people as domestic terrorists who express opinions at Board of Ed meetings. Bidens DOJ is doing that. That’s not dangerous?

I don't recall Trumps IRS being used as a club against people who disagree with his politics. Obama's IRS did that. That’s not dangerous?

I'll judge Trump, like I do everyone, based on everything they do. I don't ignore the good (if the potus is in the other party) or the bad (if the potus is in my party).

Nightfighter, was it a good thing Trump did, when he donated his jet (when the airlines refused to do so) to fly that kid across country?

Was that a kind act, yes or no?

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Old 10-21-2021, 08:42 AM   #2
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I think Trump, on balance, is an awful human being. Awful.

But a record-number of Americans polled in 2020, said they were better off after 4 years of his presidency. Never before had that many Americans said they were better off after 4 years of a president (Gallup does this poll every 4 years). Which is why I say that even though he's personally bad, the policies he advocated for, are things that Americans liked.

I would not want to live in a country where Trump was a dictator, for sure. Then he'd potentially be dangerous. In our country, with the checks and balances, he's not really metaphysically dangerous.

I don't recall Trump's justice department flagging people as domestic terrorists who express opinions at Board of Ed meetings. Bidens DOJ is doing that. That’s not dangerous?

I don't recall Trumps IRS being used as a club against people who disagree with his politics. Obama's IRS did that. That’s not dangerous?

I'll judge Trump, like I do everyone, based on everything they do. I don't ignore the good (if the potus is in the other party) or the bad (if the potus is in my party).

Nightfighter, was it a good thing Trump did, when he donated his jet (when the airlines refused to do so) to fly that kid across country?

Was that a kind act, yes or no?

Jim seem you missed Trump trying to overthrow a legitimate election. Via his justice department and any other department that would possibly help. But In your revisionists history everything’s equal
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Jim seem you missed Trump trying to overthrow a legitimate election. Via his justice department and any other department that would possibly help. But In your revisionists history everything’s equal
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trump deserves all kinds of heat for looking into that. i don’t know that he actually tried to do it. i know that in january 6, he told the crowd explicitly to be peaceful
and patriotic, he used those exact words in that day. but for sure, he considered some potentially scary things. which is exactly why i said i wouldn’t want him to be a dictator. i’m not revising history, i’m the one who considers everything he did. you’re the one who refuses to accept that he ever did anything good. that’s revising history.

now can you please answer
my question? why did you post that the kid that trump helped died, and that his father was accused of financial mis-doings?

you posted it, so clearly you saw that as a rebuttal that trump is capable of doing anything good. i’d like to know why.

we have this routine, you and i. i answer your questions directly, and you dodge mine.
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Old 10-21-2021, 09:32 AM   #4
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Seriously? You really want to go on record here, where your posts can be quoted and held forth for prosperity, making a case for Trump's moral character based on donating a jet to ferry a sick kid?

“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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Seriously? You really want to go on record here, where your posts can be quoted and held forth for prosperity, making a case for Trump's moral character based on donating a jet to ferry a sick kid?
that post was clearly response to the post i quoted, where someone said trump doesn’t have an ethical bone in his body, or some such liberal nonsense.

i hate trump. can’t stand him. but the fact is, he’s done some good things, helped some people. that’s simply the truth. that truth scares some people because it undermines their political agenda. that’s not my problem.


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if you didn't know what he said and you read this thread.... you'd think he said "rot in hell"...trump derangement syndrome...you guys know he isn't president anymore....right?
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if you didn't know what he said and you read this thread.... you'd think he said "rot in hell"...trump derangement syndrome...you guys know he isn't president anymore....right?
trump wasn’t even wrong, Powell was one of the key architects of america’s worst foreign disaster since the vietnam war.

when george bush dies, people
won’t be shy about connecting him to the iraq war. and there’s nothing wrong with mentioning that connection, because it’s true.

TDS, boy. what else are they going to focus on? great jobs reports? low inflation? low crime? a secure border?
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Old 10-21-2021, 10:21 AM   #8
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if you didn't know what he said and you read this thread.... you'd think he said "rot in hell"...trump derangement syndrome...you guys know he isn't president anymore....right?
Maybe you should tell his supporters he isn’t president.. seeing you’re not one to pay attention to what is actually going on in the. World . unless it’s grammatically incorrect .
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