President Biden says that 3,500,000,000,000 equals 0.

[Pete F.]

Under Trump there were more migrants than any year since 2005
Trump reduced aid to Central America, it didn’t make it better there.
Now once again we end up with more people seeking a chance and willing to risk their lives to do that.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Under Trump there were more migrants than any year since 2005
Trump reduced aid to Central America, it didn’t make it better there.
Now once again we end up with more people seeking a chance and willing to risk their lives to do that.
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are there more illegal crossings now than under trump? yes or no?

i give trump bad marks on the border, he campaigned on sealing it up but didn’t.

but crossings have skyrocketed under this administration. can you admit that? No you can’t.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

are there more illegal crossings now than under trump? yes or no?

i give trump bad marks on the border, he campaigned on sealing it up but didn’t.

but crossings have skyrocketed under this administration. can you admit that? No you can’t.
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Did I deny that?

I gave the reason why, but you think that there is a magic thing that stops illegal immigration without doing anything about the things that push people to leave where they are.

Just think how bad things would have to be to take your family and go to an unknown place.

No immigration reform has been done since Reagan, who did it with a Democratic Congress.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Did I deny that?

I gave the reason why, but you think that there is a magic thing that stops illegal immigration without doing anything about the things that push people to leave where they are.

Just think how bad things would have to be to take your family and go to an unknown place.

No immigration reform has been done since Reagan, who did it with a Democratic Congress.

oh, so crossings are up, but it’s Trumps fault, of course.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

oh, so crossings are up, but it’s Trumps fault, of course.
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Well, crossings consistently dropped from the Bush administration thru the Obama ultimately reaching lows of less than 50K until 2019 in the Trump administration when they exploded to over 130K.

Trump reduced immigration a little before the Covid-19 pandemic reduced it a lot.

Trump sharply reduced immigration flows that are easy for a president to control, refugees being the most obvious example, and struggled with the rest.

Trump couldn't even deport as many illegals as Obama.

Illegal immigration has always been a push pull and you can change it in two ways, have a great recession which historically cut illegal immigration significantly or improve things in the countries that people feel forced to leave.

The current Republican minority in Congress is obviously trying for the former.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

are there more illegal crossings now than under trump? yes or no?

i give trump bad marks on the border, he campaigned on sealing it up but didn’t.

but crossings have skyrocketed under this administration. can you admit that? No you can’t.
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Really and no cause and effect discussion, come on get real. You call Pete a political hack, yet you somehow are blaming this administration for an increase in crossings, that’s the pot calling the kettle black. Could it be natural disasters, political unrest and many other factors result in the increase.