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Old 10-04-2021, 02:48 PM   #1
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Makes no difference, and your "wampum" remark is insulting to my Native American heritage.
A history of Lies and hypocrisy make a difference to some people. To some people, it impacts the credibility of the liar & hypocrite.

If you're not insulted (and you aren't) that she deliberately appropriated the unfathomable misery your ancestors endured for her own personal gain, then please spare me your fake outrage at my remark. If you give her a pass for what she did (and we all know you do), my remark is nothing. Either it's wrong to exploit Native Americans, or it's OK. But you believe it's ok when liberals do it, and wrong when conservatives do it, and it doesn't work that way, sorry. You have to choose whether it's OK or not, and apply that standard to everyone, or else you don't actually have a principled position.
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Old 10-05-2021, 01:28 PM   #2
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A history of Lies and hypocrisy make a difference to some people. To some people, it impacts the credibility of the liar & hypocrite.

If you're not insulted (and you aren't) that she deliberately appropriated the unfathomable misery your ancestors endured for her own personal gain, then please spare me your fake outrage at my remark. If you give her a pass for what she did (and we all know you do), my remark is nothing. Either it's wrong to exploit Native Americans, or it's OK. But you believe it's ok when liberals do it, and wrong when conservatives do it, and it doesn't work that way, sorry. You have to choose whether it's OK or not, and apply that standard to everyone, or else you don't actually have a principled position.
I actually am offended by your mocking her, as I am when Trump calls her Pocahontas. Generally speaking I don't think people should claim heritage unless they are quite sure (In my case I have a tribe ID) but I've never seen anything that she gained unfairly from it. Stupid but not earth shattering. The mortgage foreclosure thing also has been blown way out of proportion as well.
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Old 10-05-2021, 01:51 PM   #3
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I actually am offended by your mocking her, as I am when Trump calls her Pocahontas. Generally speaking I don't think people should claim heritage unless they are quite sure (In my case I have a tribe ID) but I've never seen anything that she gained unfairly from it. Stupid but not earth shattering. The mortgage foreclosure thing also has been blown way out of proportion as well.
If you actually had any principle (other than democrat=good, republican=bad), you'd be furious at what she did.

"I've never seen anything that she gained unfairly from it."

Harvard touted her widely as their first Native American law professor.

She exploited the genuine suffering of your people, in order to land a $400,000-a-year-job.

Every single person here, knows you'd be singing a different tune, if a Republican did what she did. Because your only principle, which I have never once seen you deviate from here, is that the democrat is always, always right.

I would honestly pay good money to hook you up to a polygraph, ask you if she lied for financial gain, hear you say "no", and see what the machine says. In other words, do even you believe the nonsense that you post here?

"The mortgage foreclosure thing also has been blown way out of proportion as well"

She excoriated banks for foreclosing. Yet she and her husband bought and flipped foreclosures. So it's only OK when she does it.

Then there's her whopper about getting fired form a school job for being pregnant (poor little lamb, so victimized by the evil men), when there's paperwork that she quit and the school board asked her to stay.

But you can't call her out for any of it, because she's a democrat.

Me think-um she want to dwell in house of Great White Chief. Ugh.
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Old 10-05-2021, 03:20 PM   #4
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Harvard touted her widely as their first Native American law professor.
I believe she was listed once in a diversity report but not by name.

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She exploited the genuine suffering of your people, in order to land a $400,000-a-year-job.
The two people at Harvard who recommended her for the job said they had no idea she thought she was a Native American and she was hired solely on her professional qualifications.

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She excoriated banks for foreclosing. Yet she and her husband bought and flipped foreclosures. So it's only OK when she does it.
She didn't flip a single foreclosure Jim.

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Then there's her whopper about getting fired form a school job for being pregnant (poor little lamb, so victimized by the evil men), when there's paperwork that she quit and the school board asked her to stay.
I looked into this one, seems like it's based off some school meeting minutes that were months before she would have been visible pregnant. Certainly doesn't invalidate her story.

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Me think-um she want to dwell in house of Great White Chief. Ugh.
Pathetic.
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Old 10-05-2021, 04:42 PM   #5
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I believe she was listed once in a diversity report but not by name.


The two people at Harvard who recommended her for the job said they had no idea she thought she was a Native American and she was hired solely on her professional qualifications.


She didn't flip a single foreclosure Jim.


I looked into this one, seems like it's based off some school meeting minutes that were months before she would have been visible pregnant. Certainly doesn't invalidate her story.


Pathetic.
"I believe she was listed once in a diversity report but not by name."

Of course you believe that, because it paints her actions favorably. WHat I believe, because it's true, is that Harvard did mention her by name to show the diversity of lhe law school faculty. From the Crimson Tide article below...

"Although the conventional wisdom among students and faculty is that the Law School faculty includes no minority women, Chmura said Professor of Law Elizabeth Warren is Native American."


https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1...ing-at-hls-pa/

"The two people at Harvard who recommended her for the job said they had no idea she thought she was a Native American"

You say they said. You also said they didn't mention her by name, so...

"She didn't flip a single foreclosure Jim. "

Yahoo, among others, says otherwise. I dare say you might want to re-think where you get your "news".

https://news.yahoo.com/news/harsh-fo...ycsrp_catchall

"I looked into this one, seems like it's based off some school meeting minutes that were months before she would have been visible pregnant. Certainly doesn't invalidate her story. "

Which took place "months before she was visibly pregnant"? If she quit before she was visibly pregnant, how could they have fired her for being pregnant?

Again, your sources of "news" are a tad askew.
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Old 10-06-2021, 06:38 AM   #6
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"I believe she was listed once in a diversity report but not by name."

Of course you believe that, because it paints her actions favorably. WHat I believe, because it's true, is that Harvard did mention her by name to show the diversity of lhe law school faculty. From the Crimson Tide article below...

"Although the conventional wisdom among students and faculty is that the Law School faculty includes no minority women, Chmura said Professor of Law Elizabeth Warren is Native American."


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when was she at Harvard?...didn't she write POW WOW CHOW in 1984?

this is bidenesque...

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^^^ so much cultural appropriation going on there....


stole the french chef's recipe to make the mexican soup claiming she's native american....good grief
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Old 10-06-2021, 12:48 PM   #8
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You say they said. You also said they didn't mention her by name, so...
The report didn't, you're citing an interview with a small school paper, not exactly widespread promotion.

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Yahoo, among others, says otherwise. I dare say you might want to re-think where you get your "news".

https://news.yahoo.com/news/harsh-fo...ycsrp_catchall
This isn't Yahoo, it's a hit piece by a writer that works for Glenn Beck.

WaPo did a breakdown of every house she or her husband bought or sold. There were 4 foreclosures and all we're held for more than six months. Buying homes on the open market for her family to remodel isn't exactly a nefarious act and she was criticizing banks for ILLEGAL FORECLOSURES.

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Which took place "months before she was visibly pregnant"? If she quit before she was visibly pregnant, how could they have fired her for being pregnant?
It looks like they offered to continue her contract before they knew she was pregnant.
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Old 10-06-2021, 12:52 PM   #9
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The report didn't, you're citing an interview with a small school paper, not exactly widespread promotion.


This isn't Yahoo, it's a hit piece by a writer that works for Glenn Beck.

WaPo did a breakdown of every house she or her husband bought or sold. There were 4 foreclosures and all we're held for more than six months. Buying homes on the open market for her family to remodel isn't exactly a nefarious act and not what she was criticizing banks for.


It looks like they offered to continue her contract before they knew she was pregnant.
oh, so it’s ok to profit on foreclosures, as long as you hold them for 6 months!!! Of course!

Spence, you are precious. She said it was predatory for banks to foreclose in search of improving their bottom line. But of course, it’s not hypocritical for her to profit from it. and it’s wrong for
banks to profit from student loans, but ok if those loans paid her $400,000 salary.

It all depends on whose ox is getting gored.
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