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09-17-2021, 10:31 AM
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What have you done on this thread, other than exactly that? Whew...
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09-17-2021, 10:52 AM
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What have you done on this thread, other than exactly that? Whew...
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Pointed out your hypocrisy and also showed how ridiculous and petty you are complaining about the president being told to call on one reporter first. Showed how your anger is so prevalent that every thread you comment on turns into a #^&#^&#^&#^& show.
I did not comment on how you're trying to imply that we should be looking at total covid cases since inception without looking at amongst other things, the density of the early States compared to the States with high covid counts now, before and after vaccine was developed and rolled out, or looking at before and after the Delta virus shows that you're probably a pretty crappy actuary if you use that same logic
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09-17-2021, 11:19 AM
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Pointed out your hypocrisy and also showed how ridiculous and petty you are complaining about the president being told to call on one reporter first. Showed how your anger is so prevalent that every thread you comment on turns into a #^&#^&#^&#^& show.
I did not comment on how you're trying to imply that we should be looking at total covid cases since inception without looking at amongst other things, the density of the early States compared to the States with high covid counts now, before and after vaccine was developed and rolled out, or looking at before and after the Delta virus shows that you're probably a pretty crappy actuary if you use that same logic
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oh you pointed out my hypocrisy. but when i did the same exact thing to you, you called me
an angry #^^^^&. so as usual, with all things, it’s only ok when you do it.
what was my hypocrisy, exactly?
i never said we shouldn’t be looking at anything related to covid. please point to where i said not to look at something?
what i said, is that total death rate, is more important than death rate of the last week. do you disagree with that?
can you make a single post without completely misrepresenting what i said?
If i had even come close to saying what you claim i said, you’d be right, i’d be unemployable. Fortunately for me, i never came close to saying not to look at something. i was asking why the lefties never talk about inception to date data, and only talk about last two weeks. the answer of course, is that inception to date data makes liberals look les favorable then looking at the most recent data.
I’ll wait patiently for you to point to a post where i said that recent data is t worth looking at, at all? if you can’t do that, can you admit you lied?
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09-17-2021, 12:24 PM
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oh you pointed out my hypocrisy. but when i did the same exact thing to you, you called me
an angry #^^^^&. so as usual, with all things, it’s only ok when you do it.
what was my hypocrisy, exactly?
i never said we shouldn’t be looking at anything related to covid. please point to where i said not to look at something?
what i said, is that total death rate, is more important than death rate of the last week. do you disagree with that?
can you make a single post without completely misrepresenting what i said?
If i had even come close to saying what you claim i said, you’d be right, i’d be unemployable. Fortunately for me, i never came close to saying not to look at something. i was asking why the lefties never talk about inception to date data, and only talk about last two weeks. the answer of course, is that inception to date data makes liberals look les favorable then looking at the most recent data.
I’ll wait patiently for you to point to a post where i said that recent data is t worth looking at, at all? if you can’t do that, can you admit you lied?
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You call out Biden because you think he called a biased org. conveniently ignoring that's what Trump did with a crappy news organization like oan and what every other president in history has done. That's hypocrisy. Look at post 149 where you said you want to look at data from inception which is invalid since so many things have changed. Did you forget that or are you the liar?
So I'll do what you did a few times here. Why did you stay away for a few months? was it you bc you were so angry you couldn't take it anymore and then finally couldn't control yourself and had to come back and post?
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09-17-2021, 12:57 PM
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You call out Biden because you think he called a biased org. conveniently ignoring that's what Trump did with a crappy news organization like oan and what every other president in history has done. That's hypocrisy. Look at post 149 where you said you want to look at data from inception which is invalid since so many things have changed. Did you forget that or are you the liar?
So I'll do what you did a few times here. Why did you stay away for a few months? was it you bc you were so angry you couldn't take it anymore and then finally couldn't control yourself and had to come back and post?
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Paul: Jim said we shouldn’t look at many covid facts.
Jim: when did i say that, can you point that out? i think i even said please.
Paul: you liked trump
and don’t like biden, blah, blah blah.
I asked for proof of your claim that i said to ignore covid facts, and you immediately pivot to what i said about the press conference. so can we assume you admit i never ever said what you claimed i said?
as to the press conference, i said to you explicitly in this thread, that every president is likely to be more cordial to news organizations that are friendly to him. they all do that. no one expects any president to do
otherwise.
in this case, what was interesting is that Biden very clearly said ( not for the first time) that he was instructed to call on one specific reporter first.
if you can please post a video of trump saying the same
thing, I will be equally critical of trump doing it. i can do so, because i’m not a hypocrite.
I stayed away from this forum because of the language coming from the lefties. Pete went after TDFs daughters. Another lefty made issue of someone else’s wife having cancer. then you used, and adamantly defended the use of, the word retard. thinking that’s harmless, puts you in very very rare territory. it’s not good territory.
You lied when you claimed I said to
ignore statistics related to covid. You’re wrong when you say i’m hypocritical on my criticism of biden here, because as far as i know, trump didn’t receive instructions to call on specific reporters first. again, if you can prove trump did what biden did, i’ll
be equally critical. John R also thought it was interesting that Biden blubbered about needing to be instructed.
You use the word retard, then act like someone stole
your pony when anyone else uses harsh language. But you’re not a hypocrite, just me, even though i haven’t done anything hypocritical.
if trump did the same thing, and i said that was ok, that would be hypocritical. but i don’t do that, sadly for you.
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09-17-2021, 12:59 PM
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You act like someone stole
your pony when anyone else uses harsh language.
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this is so true... 
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09-17-2021, 01:08 PM
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this is so true... 
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he’s also acting like
i’m complaining that Biden didn’t call on foxnews first. i keep
saying, i commented on the fact that he said he was instructed to call on a specific person first. it appears to be a sign of his senility, that he can’t be trusted to decide on his own.
it’s not a huge deal, it was just an interesting observation.
Paul, you’ve also told
me “you don’t care about Pete’s harsh language, and you’re ok when you use harsh language, but you cry when dangles or i do it. but you’re not a hypocrite.
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09-17-2021, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Paul: Jim said we shouldn’t look at many covid facts.
Jim: when did i say that, can you point that out? i think i even said please.
Paul: you liked trump
and don’t like biden, blah, blah blah. I never said that so that's a scummy lie. I correctly pointed out how your hypocrite where are you constantly criticize Biden for things that Trump and many other presidents have done.
I asked for proof of your claim that i said to ignore covid facts, and you immediately pivot to what i said about the press conference. so can we assume you admit i never ever said what you claimed i said? Didn't I correctly point out in post 149 you said we should be looking at it since inception. So again you're lying.
as to the press conference, i said to you explicitly in this thread, that every president is likely to be more cordial to news organizations that are friendly to him. they all do that. no one expects any president to do
otherwise.
in this case, what was interesting is that Biden very clearly said ( not for the first time) that he was instructed to call on one specific reporter first. And I pointed out how Petty it is because all presidents do the same thing and call on friendly news organizations. Like Trump did with AON
if you can please post a video of trump saying the same
thing, I will be equally critical of trump doing it. i can do so, because i’m not a hypocrite.
I stayed away from this forum because of the language coming from the lefties. Pete went after TDFs daughters. Another lefty made issue of someone else’s wife having cancer. then you used, and adamantly defended the use of, the word retard. thinking that’s harmless, puts you in very very rare territory. it’s not good territory. And I've repeatedly pointed out to you why I used it. You should look at your posts things cuz you're the most vile person on this site.
You lied when you claimed I said to
ignore statistics related to covid.
I never said that you said to ignore statistics. I said it's ridiculous that you imply that the only statistic that's important is from inception and not looking at different things that have occurred over time.
You’re wrong when you say i’m hypocritical on my criticism of biden here, because as far as i know, trump didn’t receive instructions to call on specific reporters first. again, if you can prove trump did what biden did, i’ll
be equally critical. John R also thought it was interesting that Biden blubbered about needing to be instructed.
So I'm sorry but who is John R again that he is to be all and end all?
You use the word retard, then act like someone stole
your pony when anyone else uses harsh language. But you’re not a hypocrite, just me, even though i haven’t done anything hypocritical.
if trump did the same thing, and i said that was ok, that would be hypocritical. but i don’t do that, sadly for you.
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Nm.
Edits damn the colors didn't come out
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09-17-2021, 01:33 PM
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Nm.
Edits damn the colors didn't come out
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Paul, you claimed I said to ignore what could be valuable statistics related to covid.
I asked you to point out where I did that.
You ran away from the topic.
All you had to do, was say you were wrong, maybe you honestly thought I said something that stupid, amybe you were thinking of someone else. But you can't apologize, because you're never wrong.
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09-17-2021, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
I stayed away from this forum because of the language coming from the lefties. Pete went after TDFs daughters.
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Those actually were his children that he posted pictures of, wow, poor guy. I'm sorry, I didn't realize that.
Don't tell me your children look like that also, I can understand why you are losing it 
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09-17-2021, 01:36 PM
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Those actually were his children that he posted pictures of, wow, poor guy. I'm sorry, I didn't realize that.
Don't tell me your children look like that also, I can understand why you are losing it 
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I have one with special needs that, based on what we see here, you and Paul would poke fun at. Congrats on that.
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09-17-2021, 11:41 AM
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Pointed out your hypocrisy and also showed how ridiculous and petty you are...
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that's a solid days work...congrats 
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09-17-2021, 12:04 PM
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The goal is not to keep score, a pandemic is not a game, the goal is to end the pandemic.
A simple analogy that most people would understand is job performance, claiming that the only thing that matters is quantity over time not current performance would not choose the most productive individuals. Most conservatives have issues with that in the case of education, where compensation is based on length of service and education but not performance.
In order to end the pandemic looking at totals will do little, some think it will work to achieve political ends, but it did not in the recent California recall election.
Risk levels & key metrics
Covid Act Now uses six key metrics to assess COVID across U.S. states, metros, and counties. Three of these—daily new cases (incidence), infection rate (RT) and positive test rate—assess a location's overall risk level. The other three—ICU capacity used, % vaccinated and vulnerability—reflect a location's ability to protect itself and recover from COVID. Below, learn more about each metric and how it is assessed.
How COVID risk is determined
A state or county’s overall risk level takes into account three metrics: daily new cases per 100K (incidence), infection rate (Rt), and test positivity.
Daily new cases, also known as “incidence” in epidemiology, represents the current amount of COVID in a community.
Infection rate is the direction and speed of growth. For instance, daily new cases may be low, but if infection rate is high, then we know that daily new cases will be high in the near future.
Positive test rate is a measure of our confidence in the underlying data. For instance, if daily new cases and infection rate are both low, but test positivity is high, then the lack of sufficient testing suggests that we are not capturing the true levels of COVID and both daily new cases and infection rate are actually higher than what is currently reported.
Each metric has the following levels: green, yellow, orange, and red. Incidence is the only metric for which there is a dark red, a fifth color we added after the third surge in winter 2020, in order to capture unprecedented case counts.
If a region’s daily new cases is green, then its overall risk level is green. For instance, if the daily new cases metric is green, but test positivity is yellow, the overall risk level is still green. Otherwise, a region’s overall risk level reflects the highest risk level across all three metrics. For instance, if daily new cases and test positivity are both yellow, but infection growth is orange, then the overall risk level is orange.
The end goal is for regions to reduce cases to zero, to fully reopen their economies, and for people to resume normal lives, unrestricted by COVID or containment measures.
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09-17-2021, 12:52 PM
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A simple analogy that most people would understand is job performance.....
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oh good, he's going to teach us something...listen up everyone 
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09-17-2021, 11:54 AM
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Pointed out your hypocrisy and also showed how ridiculous and petty you are Showed how your anger is so prevalent that every thread you comment on turns into a #^&#^&#^&#^& show.
I did not comment on how you're trying to imply that we should be looking at total covid cases since inception without looking at amongst other things, the density of the early States compared to the States with high covid counts now, before and after vaccine was developed and rolled out, or looking at before and after the Delta virus shows that you're probably a pretty crappy actuary if you use that same logic
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you saying something, isn’t the same as you “showing” something. hate to break it to you.
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09-17-2021, 12:28 PM
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you saying something, isn’t the same as you “showing” something. hate to break it to you.
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The showing is every thread you comment in you end up insulting people and it turns into a #^&#^&#^&#^& show.
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09-17-2021, 12:38 PM
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The showing is every thread you comment in you end up insulting people and it turns into a #^&#^&#^&#^& show.
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but your insulting people
isn’t an indicator of the same character flaw, because you get to decide who gets a pass for lobbing insults and who doesn’t. must be nice to have that authority.
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09-17-2021, 12:42 PM
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but your insulting people
isn’t an indicator of the same character flaw, because you get to decide who gets a pass for lobbing insults and who doesn’t. must be nice to have that authority.
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I make an exception for you since that's all you do on this forum.
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09-17-2021, 12:52 PM
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I make an exception for you since that's all you do on this forum.
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you do keep it colorful...
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09-17-2021, 11:33 AM
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What have you done on this thread, other than exactly that? Whew...
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leftists don't seem any happier after they won....
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