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09-10-2021, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
And it is a fact that the unvaccinated with natural immunity there are 13 times less likely to get the variant than the vaccinated.
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I don't think this is true, Bruce.
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09-10-2021, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
I don't think this is true, Bruce.
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It is from a study
The total context may be incomplete but that is the results that were publicized.
A new study from Israel looked at thousands of people who had either been vaccinated against COVID-19 or were unvaccinated but previously infected
Participants who were double jabbed were 5.96 times more likely to be infected and 7.13 times more likely to experience symptoms
After three months, risk of infection was 13.06 times higher among immunized individuals and they were 27 times more likely to experience symptoms
Researchers say the study has many limitations including the Indian 'Delta' variant being dominant and participants not being required to be tested
The study does not discourage vaccination because unvaccinated people are still more likely to be infected with Covid or hospitalized than vaccinated people
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09-11-2021, 06:00 AM
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Location: Libtardia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slipknot
It is from a study
The total context may be incomplete but that is the results that were publicized.
A new study from Israel looked at thousands of people who had either been vaccinated against COVID-19 or were unvaccinated but previously infected
Participants who were double jabbed were 5.96 times more likely to be infected and 7.13 times more likely to experience symptoms
After three months, risk of infection was 13.06 times higher among immunized individuals and they were 27 times more likely to experience symptoms
Researchers say the study has many limitations including the Indian 'Delta' variant being dominant and participants not being required to be tested
The study does not discourage vaccination because unvaccinated people are still more likely to be infected with Covid or hospitalized than vaccinated people
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Have you been sniffing the Tightbond again ?? “A study”. What study? To think that these vaccines don’t work is ridiculous.
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09-11-2021, 07:29 AM
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I read an interesting dive into the various studies. Several hypotheses can be drawn:
Previous Covid infection is one of the best defenses against getting C19 again, or the Delta.
Getting vaccinated on top of a previous infection is even more safe.
Pfizer seems to have most lost of effectiveness
https://maximumtruth.substack.com/p/...source=twitter
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09-11-2021, 10:47 AM
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Ledge Runner Baits
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
I read an interesting dive into the various studies. Several hypotheses can be drawn:
Previous Covid infection is one of the best defenses against getting C19 again, or the Delta.
Getting vaccinated on top of a previous infection is even more safe.
Pfizer seems to have most lost of effectiveness
https://maximumtruth.substack.com/p/...source=twitter
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We will all no doubt know more going forward, but I’d agree with the conclusion at the end, getting the vaccine regardless of your vaccine status is good for society and probably especially valuable to anyone living a more risky public life.
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09-11-2021, 11:32 AM
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Canceled
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
I read an interesting dive into the various studies. Several hypotheses can be drawn:
Previous Covid infection is one of the best defenses against getting C19 again, or the Delta.
Getting vaccinated on top of a previous infection is even more safe.
Pfizer seems to have most lost of effectiveness
https://maximumtruth.substack.com/p/...source=twitter
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What I don’t see in the comparison of the difference in effectiveness between having previously had COVID and the vaccine is the fact that if you had Covid previously you survived.
Taking the most vulnerable out of the data would skew the results.
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09-11-2021, 12:44 PM
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just curious..."IF" they discover a way to inject something with the vaccine into you or implant something under your skin that will let the government know that you have Covid or whatever so that they can make sure that you are not a threat to others...would you jump right in line? Would you support mandates for this science?...it would be "good for society and probably especially valuable to anyone living a more risky public life"..think about the possibilities
https://news.yahoo.com/pentagon-unve...231239955.html
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09-11-2021, 02:27 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Originally Posted by scottw
just curious..."IF" they discover a way to inject something with the vaccine into you or implant something under your skin that will let the government know that you have Covid or whatever so that they can make sure that you are not a threat to others...would you jump right in line? Would you support mandates for this science?...it would be "good for society and probably especially valuable to anyone living a more risky public life"..think about the possibilities
https://news.yahoo.com/pentagon-unve...231239955.html
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It’s that kind of fu*ked up scare tactics that keep the unvaccinated hesitant, you have a cell phone don’t you, what you don’t think anyone knows where you are or what your up to.
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09-11-2021, 07:45 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
I read an interesting dive into the various studies. Several hypotheses can be drawn:
Previous Covid infection is one of the best defenses against getting C19 again, or the Delta.
Getting vaccinated on top of a previous infection is even more safe.
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Cool
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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09-11-2021, 07:39 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
Have you been sniffing the Tightbond again ?? “A study”. What study? To think that these vaccines don’t work is ridiculous.
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I never said the vaccines don’t work
Stop putting words in my mouth
I posted what was said about the Variant
Lay off the pipe
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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