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03-24-2021, 10:39 AM
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You're all set with the future conservatives
Dinesh D'Souza? Allen West? Ted Nugent? Steve Crowder? Curt Schilling?
Biggest bunch of victims since the Confederacy
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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03-24-2021, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
You're all set with the future conservatives
Dinesh D'Souza? Allen West? Ted Nugent? Steve Crowder? Curt Schilling?
Biggest bunch of victims since the Confederacy
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As far as the subject of this thread goes, I would trust their opinions over any Democrat. But I understand why you must take every opportunity to make fake smears. I don't expect integrity from someone who must resort to lying and slander in order to destroy what he fears.
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03-24-2021, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
As far as the subject of this thread goes, I would trust their opinions over any Democrat. But I understand why you must take every opportunity to make fake smears. I don't expect integrity from someone who must resort to lying and slander in order to destroy what he fears.
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Calling the person who came in second in an election a loser is not lying or slander.
In this country elections have winners and losers.
55% of Americans now think the country is on the right track
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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03-24-2021, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Calling the person who came in second in an election a loser is not lying or slander.
In this country elections have winners and losers.
55% of Americans now think the country is on the right track
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There is an important connotative difference between THE loser (in a specific competion) and A loser (in general).
Is "Biggest bunch of victims since the Confederacy" some sort of objective unbiased, and truthful characterization?
So, if you subscribe to the infallibility of the majority of Americans, you must have thought that the country was on the right track when the American people elected Trump.
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03-24-2021, 07:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by detbuch
There is an important connotative difference between THE loser (in a specific competion) and A loser (in general).
Is "Biggest bunch of victims since the Confederacy" some sort of objective unbiased, and truthful characterization?
So, if you subscribe to the infallibility of the majority of Americans, you must have thought that the country was on the right track when the American people elected Trump.
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Perhaps you forgot, but that loser didn’t get a majority then either, 2.8 million more Americans voted for his opponent
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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03-24-2021, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Perhaps you forgot, but that loser didn’t get a majority then either, 2.8 million more Americans voted for his opponent
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You're absolutely right. I did forget that. Thank you for reminding me.
I'm still under the influence of the fact that we are a republic, not a democracy. For very good reason. Democracies are prone to the tyranny of the majority, and the injustice of the errors that are common to mob rule. Majority opinion is the ultimate suppression of individual perception and expression. Of individual freedom.
Which is the point that I was trying to make. Majority opinion is merely a simplistic method of selection. It is not some infallible method of arriving at some philosophical, religious, scientific, or even political truth. Because a majority believes something does not make it right. It takes a lot more wisdom, intellect, intelligence, and investigative rigor in order to arrive at truth and justice than is usual in most majorities. It has happened throughout history many times that one person was right and the crowd was wrong.
Your notion of a majority claiming we are "on the right track" means nothing more than might makes right. That fits well with your Progressive, authoritarian, sometimes even Post Modern, views on what our government should be and do "for us."
Last edited by detbuch; 03-24-2021 at 08:13 PM..
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