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Old 12-30-2020, 08:38 AM   #1
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A significant number of Americans believe misinformation about the origins of the coronavirus and the recent presidential election, as well as conspiracy theories like QAnon, according to a new poll k

Forty percent of respondents said they believe the coronavirus was made in a lab in China even though there is no evidence for this. Scientists say the virus was transmitted to humans from another species.

And one-third of Americans believe that voter fraud helped Joe Biden win the 2020 election, despite the fact that courts, election officials and the Department of Justice have found no evidence of widespread fraud that could have changed the outcome.

The poll results add to mounting evidence that misinformation is gaining a foothold in American society and that conspiracy theories are going mainstream, especially during the coronavirus pandemic. This has raised concerns about how to get people to believe in a "baseline reality," said Chris Jackson, a pollster with Ipsos.

"Increasingly people are willing to say and believe stuff that fits in with their view of how the world should be, even if it doesn't have any basis in reality or fact," Jackson said.

This poll is reflected here that much is certain
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A significant number of Americans believe misinformation about the origins of the coronavirus and the recent presidential election, as well as conspiracy theories like QAnon, according to a new poll k

Forty percent of respondents said they believe the coronavirus was made in a lab in China even though there is no evidence for this. Scientists say the virus was transmitted to humans from another species.

And one-third of Americans believe that voter fraud helped Joe Biden win the 2020 election, despite the fact that courts, election officials and the Department of Justice have found no evidence of widespread fraud that could have changed the outcome.

The poll results add to mounting evidence that misinformation is gaining a foothold in American society and that conspiracy theories are going mainstream, especially during the coronavirus pandemic. This has raised concerns about how to get people to believe in a "baseline reality," said Chris Jackson, a pollster with Ipsos.

"Increasingly people are willing to say and believe stuff that fits in with their view of how the world should be, even if it doesn't have any basis in reality or fact," Jackson said.

This poll is reflected here that much is certain
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Yet you shrug off political power games. Did you know every Dem believed the accusation against judge Kavanaugh without ANY credible evidence?
Or does that not fit your narrative?
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Old 12-30-2020, 10:16 AM   #3
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Did you know every Dem believed the accusation against judge Kavanaugh without ANY credible evidence?
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Make #^&#^&#^&#^& up recently?
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Old 12-30-2020, 10:33 AM   #5
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Yet you shrug off political power games. Did you know every Dem believed the accusation against judge Kavanaugh without ANY credible evidence?
Or does that not fit your narrative?
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Who paid off Brett Kavanaugh’s $92,000 country club fees, His $200,000 credit card debt, his $1.2 million mortgage and purchased themselves a SCOTUS seat? Some Dark Money, never disclosed, bailed him out.
He showed us all his poor judgement as he turned into an attack animal when questioned.
SCOTUS Justice Kennedy retired abruptly to make way for Trump’s Brett Kavanaugh, Kennedy’s son Justin signed off on Trump’s loans at Deutsche Bank, those loans were backed by Russian state-owned VTB Bank, and Justin’s boss Tom Bowers “killed himself”.

Convince me that Kennedy just happened to decide to retire after hiring clerks and that Kavanaugh paid off his credit card, mortgage and club bill on his own.

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Who paid off Brett Kavanaugh’s $92,000 country club fees, His $200,000 credit card debt, his $1.2 million mortgage and purchased themselves a SCOTUS seat? Some Dark Money, never disclosed, bailed him out.
He showed us all his poor judgement as he turned into an attack animal when questioned.
SCOTUS Justice Kennedy retired abruptly to make way for Trump’s Brett Kavanaugh, Kennedy’s son Justin signed off on Trump’s loans at Deutsche Bank, those loans were backed by Russian state-owned VTB Bank, and Justin’s boss Tom Bowers “killed himself”.

Convince me that Kennedy just happened to decide to retire after hiring clerks and that Kavanaugh paid off his credit card, mortgage and club bill on his own.
Why would I attempt to convince you, Bitchslappedboy?

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Why would I attempt to convince you, Bitchslappedboy?
You can’t because it doesn’t fit your narrative, Chubby Gigolo
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Old 12-30-2020, 12:31 PM   #9
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Who paid off Brett Kavanaugh’s $92,000 country club fees, His $200,000 credit card debt, his $1.2 million mortgage and purchased themselves a SCOTUS seat? Some Dark Money, never disclosed, bailed him out.
He showed us all his poor judgement as he turned into an attack animal when questioned.
SCOTUS Justice Kennedy retired abruptly to make way for Trump’s Brett Kavanaugh, Kennedy’s son Justin signed off on Trump’s loans at Deutsche Bank, those loans were backed by Russian state-owned VTB Bank, and Justin’s boss Tom Bowers “killed himself”.

Convince me that Kennedy just happened to decide to retire after hiring clerks and that Kavanaugh paid off his credit card, mortgage and club bill on his own.
And yet another insinuation. What? You need to be convinced of your own insinuation? If you actually proved it, you could convince yourself. But, then, it wouldn't fit YOUR narrative.

But what was so special about Kavanaugh that all that money should have been spent on him when there were several other judges on Trump's list?
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keep trolling those conspiracy theories pete
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Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., said Wednesday he plans to object during the Electoral College certification process

"I cannot vote to certify the electoral college results on January 6 without raising the fact that some states, particularly Pennsylvania, failed to follow their own state election laws," Hawley said in a statement Wednesday morning.

Hawley called on Congress to investigate allegations of voter fraud and election irregularities. No credible evidence of such fraud has been provided by President Trump or his legal team.

Guess he forgot he's from the Show Me State
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Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., said Wednesday he plans to object during the Electoral College certification process

"I cannot vote to certify the electoral college results on January 6 without raising the fact that some states, particularly Pennsylvania, failed to follow their own state election laws," Hawley said in a statement Wednesday morning.

Hawley called on Congress to investigate allegations of voter fraud and election irregularities. No credible evidence of such fraud has been provided by President Trump or his legal team.

Guess he forgot he's from the Show Me State
Hawley might want to ask Jeff Sessions, Bill Barr, Michael Cohen, etc. how defending Tweety will end for him.

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keep trolling those conspiracy theories pete
Did you say conspiracy theory?????

Tweety working hard at midnight, after watching Newsmaxx

I love the Great State of Georgia, but the people who run it, from the Governor, @BrianKempGA, to the Secretary of State, are a complete disaster and don’t have a clue, or worse. Nobody can be this stupid. Just allow us to find the crime, and turn the state Republican....
...The consent decree signed by the “Secretary”, with the consent of Kemp, is perhaps even more poorly negotiated than the deal that John Kerry made with Iran. Now it turns out that Brad R’s brother works for China, and they definitely don’t want “Trump”. So disgusting! #MAGA



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Did you say conspiracy theory?????

Tweety working hard at midnight, after watching Newsmaxx

I love the Great State of Georgia, but the people who run it, from the Governor, @BrianKempGA, to the Secretary of State, are a complete disaster and don’t have a clue, or worse. Nobody can be this stupid. Just allow us to find the crime, and turn the state Republican....
...The consent decree signed by the “Secretary”, with the consent of Kemp, is perhaps even more poorly negotiated than the deal that John Kerry made with Iran. Now it turns out that Brad R’s brother works for China, and they definitely don’t want “Trump”. So disgusting! #MAGA

keep a close eye on his every move and fill us in pete...you only have a couple weeks of surveillance left
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But what was so special about Kavanaugh that all that money should have been spent on him when there were several other judges on Trump's list?
Why he was chosen is the question, isn’t it?
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Why he was chosen is the question, isn’t it?
Out of all the countless reasons why Kavanaugh could have been chosen, guess which one Pete chose . . .his usual narrative fitting innuendo/insinuation/conjecture? Nah . . . can't be that . . .
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Out of all the countless reasons why Kavanaugh could have been chosen, guess which one Pete chose . . .

His usual narrative fitting innuendo/insinuation/conjecture? Nah . . . can't be that . . .
it was the russians...
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Yet you shrug off political power games. Did you know every Dem believed the accusation against judge Kavanaugh without ANY credible evidence?
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who's a supreme Court Justice

Dirty politics and conspiracies theories are not the same ... but you all ready kew that ...
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who's a supreme Court Justice

Dirty politics and conspiracies theories are not the same ... but you all ready kew that ...
You want to classify and categorize stupid. But you don’t get to do that.

Stupid is still stupid
Get out of your sewer and get some air. Save yourself
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Stupid is still stupid
Get out of your sewer and get some air. Save yourself
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Actual person makes claim in a legal setting under oath..

Claiming they election was rigged and dem eat and drink baby blood or 5g

Like I said if you see both as equal it’s not the sewer gasses
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Actual person makes claim in a legal setting under oath..

Claiming they election was rigged and dem eat and drink baby blood or 5g

Like I said if you see both as equal it’s not the sewer gasses
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Wayne,every elected official said they believed her story. Elected officials!!!

We are not trying to compare that bs with political allegiance I hope.
This is not even close to being the same. Your party simply has no conscience and have proven it time and again. Yet you stick by them like they are the second coming while criticizing the base of the right.
Hypocrite much?

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Wayne,every elected official said they believed her story. Elected officials!!!

We are not trying to compare that bs with political allegiance I hope.
This is not even close to being the same. Your party simply has no conscience and have proven it time and again. Yet you stick by them like they are the second coming while criticizing the base of the right.
Hypocrite much?
My party has no conscience that’s funny and you used hypocrite in the same sentence ...

She was under oath as was he.. so a classic he said she said ... that’s why he is a Justice this was no conspiracy theory 80 percent of Democratic men believe Ford as do 74 percent of Democratic women. Among Republicans, 77 percent of men believe Kavanaugh, as do 73 percent of women. That’s what Partisanship looks like



Be We are talking conspiracy theory’s , not partisanship , and you can’t or won’t admit the 2 topics are not the same

Wisconsin health system said an employee admitted to deliberately spoiling 500 doses of coronavirus vaccine.

Let me guess what party of conscience or website conspiracy this person believed ! to do what they did

The Nashville RV guy what conspiracy moved him 5G lizard people...s

What % of Republicans believe these conspiracy theory’s

Some 56% of Republicans believe that QAnon, a far-right conspiracy theory, is mostly or partly true,

These aren’t made up stats

And Republican elected officials are cashing in parroting these claims for votes .. and please don’t suggest both sides do it , even their own members see the downfall in the path some willing go down





So Ben Sasse is what a Rino or Truth Teller , about trying to flip the election

Let’s be clear what is happening here: We have a bunch of ambitious politicians who think there’s a quick way to tap into the president’s populist base without doing any real, long-term damage. But they’re wrong — and this issue is bigger than anyone’s personal ambitions,
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The poll results add to mounting evidence that misinformation is gaining a foothold in American society and that conspiracy theories are going mainstream, especially during the coronavirus pandemic.

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hopefully the democrats will get control of the senate and then with the help of the house that they control and the presidency and with help of their accomplices in the mainstream media and big tech they will ensure that americans are only fed a steady stream of the truth
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Forty percent of respondents said they believe the coronavirus was made in a lab in China even though there is no evidence for this. Scientists say the virus was transmitted to humans from another species.


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