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11-18-2020, 12:44 PM
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ask the democrats in the small
states if they want to do away with the electoral college, I’d sincerely be curious to know what they think.
wasn’t that long ago, when democratic presidential
candidates did just fine within the electoral college. the people in flyover country didn’t tell the DNC to march a million miles to the left, embracing late term abortions, open borders, student loan forgiveness, single payer healthcare, hating religion, reparations, green new deals, defunding the police, court stacking, etc...
if you want to embrace positions that people don’t like, there will be consequences. i hate to be the one to tell you.
They didn’t force Hilary to refer to them as deplorable and irredeemable. She put that in. scripted remark, it’s on her if people
didn’t like it.
here’s a shocking idea...since those people are americans too, maybe the dnc could adopt policies that are a bit more palatable to them.
Bill Clinton knew how to be everyone’s president. a good lesson for democrats and republicans alike.
the democrats will eventually run out of minorities to check off, and at some point they’ll have to nominate someone who will run on their policies, not their skin tone or genitalia.
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I guess Republicans will never be short of white grievance race baiting lying candidates with guys like you supporting them with out question
And Why do conservatives see everything in absolute terms . They do it all the time .. wanting back ground checks is taking fire arms. Supporting a women’s right to choose , don’t respect life , against discrimination, is attacking religion
Talking about adjusting the electoral college or senate allotment , is seen as removing it
Is that all conservatives can to is lie as a counter argument. It’s beyond old
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11-18-2020, 01:11 PM
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I guess Republicans will never be short of white grievance race baiting lying candidates with guys like you supporting them with out question
And Why do conservatives see everything in absolute terms . They do it all the time .. wanting back ground checks is taking fire arms. Supporting a women’s right to choose , don’t respect life , against discrimination, is attacking religion
Talking about adjusting the electoral college or senate allotment , is seen as removing it
Is that all conservatives can to is lie as a counter argument. It’s beyond old
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oh republicans are the race baiters? republicans are the ones who make an issue out of race. that’s what you’re saying?
i agree with you on background checks.
adjust the electoral college all you want, but it needs to be done by constitutional amendment, which means a large majority of the states need to agree to it. ain’t gonna happen. so again, the better strategy for democrats would be to abandon san francisco liberalism, and work with people
in the midwest instead of endlessly mocking them.
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11-18-2020, 01:14 PM
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I guess Republicans will never be short of white grievance race baiting lying candidates with guys like you supporting them with out question
And Why do conservatives see everything in absolute terms . They do it all the time .. wanting back ground checks is taking fire arms. Supporting a women’s right to choose , don’t respect life , against discrimination, is attacking religion
Talking about adjusting the electoral college or senate allotment , is seen as removing it
Is that all conservatives can to is lie as a counter argument. It’s beyond old
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no one is saying that opposing discrimination is attacking religion. what are you responding to?
Not allowing people to disagree with gay marriage for religious reasons, is absolutely attacking religion.
put it this way. when obama was president, a distribution company in michigan transported a lot of alcohol. their
muslim truck drivers refused to transport alcohol for religious reasons, and they were fired.
Obama’s labor department sued on their behalf and won. the obama
administration said that people
cannot be forced to abandon their religious beliefs while at work.
now, if that applies to muslim truck drivers, why doesn’t it apply to christian briers or christian photographers?
Answer - discrimination.
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11-18-2020, 02:54 PM
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no one is saying that opposing discrimination is attacking religion. what are you responding to?
Not allowing people to disagree with gay marriage for religious reasons, is absolutely attacking religion.
put it this way. when obama was president, a distribution company in michigan transported a lot of alcohol. their
muslim truck drivers refused to transport alcohol for religious reasons, and they were fired.
Obama’s labor department sued on their behalf and won. the obama
administration said that people
cannot be forced to abandon their religious beliefs while at work.
now, if that applies to muslim truck drivers, why doesn’t it apply to christian briers or christian photographers?
Answer - discrimination.
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once again you do no research
A jury has awarded $240,000 to two Muslim men who say they were fired from an Illinois tr#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g company after refusing to deliver alcohol.
reasonable accommodation
again employer and employee are not seen the same under the law
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11-18-2020, 03:04 PM
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once again you do no research
A jury has awarded $240,000 to two Muslim men who say they were fired from an Illinois tr#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g company after refusing to deliver alcohol.
reasonable accommodation
again employer and employee are not seen the same under the law
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So why doesn't that "resonable accommodation" apply to the Christian baker or photographer? Why can't the happy couple use anpther baker?
"again employer and employee are not seen the same under the law'
Who said they are the same? Can you go two seconds without accusing me of saying something I never came close to saying?
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11-18-2020, 10:06 PM
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So why doesn't that "resonable accommodation" apply to the Christian baker or photographer? Why can't the happy couple use anpther baker?
"again employer and employee are not seen the same under the law'
Who said they are the same? Can you go two seconds without accusing me of saying something I never came close to saying?
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Christian baker or photographer?
You lack understanding of our laws against discrimination. Reading those would be a good start .
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11-19-2020, 08:01 AM
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Christian baker or photographer?
You lack understanding of our laws against discrimination. Reading those would be a good start .
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Christian bakers and photographers have been penalized by states, for not participting in gay weddings.
So I will try to go very slowly here...
If Muslim truck drivers cannot be punished for refusing to abandon their religious beliefs while at work, why can the state punish Christians for refusing to abandon their religious beliefs while on the job?
If you still don't get it, i can't help you. It's very, very simple. Why doesn't the Christian baker enjoy the same freedom of religion, as the Muslim truck driver?
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11-19-2020, 08:56 AM
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Christian bakers and photographers have been penalized by states, for not participting in gay weddings.
So I will try to go very slowly here...
If Muslim truck drivers cannot be punished for refusing to abandon their religious beliefs while at work, why can the state punish Christians for refusing to abandon their religious beliefs while on the job?
If you still don't get it, i can't help you. It's very, very simple. Why doesn't the Christian baker enjoy the same freedom of religion, as the Muslim truck driver?
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Read the law
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