Republican Party is...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

doing untold damage to its own future AND to the country, the United States of America, by prolonging the inevitable, a concession. Barr, especially threw himself on the sword by saying it would be a normal transition to a second Trump administration.... What?????

Unless, unless....they are planning what amounts to a coup d'état.... Absolutely disgusting. Senators falling in line to fight this fight equally embarrassing. McConnell has lost what little respect I still had for him. I mean, C'MON MAN!!!! Your man lost! Grow up and own it. This is putting the security of the country in a very vulnerable position.

The democrats fought like tigers for over three years, they came out OK.

If people sign legal affadavits saying they saw irregularities, what, we should ignore that?

The electors are going to pick Biden in December, Bide will be the POTUS, Trump will make an azz out of himself but won't have to be dragged out of there.

Why do so many people feel that Trump is the whole GOP, that there's nothing more to the GOP than Trump? Nikki Haley, Tom Cotton, Dan Crenshaw, these people don't matter at all?

The Democratic party was annihilated at federal, state, and local levels during the Obama years, but the Democrats came back. The pendulum never stops swinging.

[nightfighter]

What the hell is that, Jim? Bunch of double spaced filler in a letter to the editor? Stand up and give us your stance. Are they right, or wrong, in your opinion, to be doing this?


And yes, Trump is the whole party because NO ONE dares stand up to him....

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

What the hell is that, Jim? Bunch of double spaced filler in a letter to the editor? Stand up and give us your stance. Are they right, or wrong, in your opinion, to be doing this?


And yes, Trump is the whole party because NO ONE dares stand up to him....

Jim is a desperate clinger, holding on to the last conspiracy theory that Trump and his fu*cked up boot lickers are trying to legitimize. Crap even Fox News has called this one, we can only hope our enemies don’t strike while the fool is still in charge.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Jim is a desperate clinger, holding on to the last conspiracy theory that Trump and his fu*cked up boot lickers are trying to legitimize. Crap even Fox News has called this one, we can only hope our enemies don’t strike while the fool is still in charge.

"Jim is a desperate clinger"

A blatant lie. I criticize Trump and Republicans all the time.

"holding on to the last conspiracy theory that Trump and his fu*cked up boot lickers are trying to legitimize'

Me: I don't believe voter fraud came close to rising to the level that it changed the outcome of the election. I think legal votes result in Biden winning. I am very confident of that. That's what I believe, I thought for a year Trump was going to lose.

GS response: Jim is one of the conspiracy theorists claiming the election was stolen!

I am an honest, reasonable, thoughtful person, GS. And you can't handle it. So you blatantly lie. How can you interpret my position, as believing in any conspiracy theory? Please explain?

Your side desperately clung to nonsensical conspiracy theories for three years.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"Jim is a desperate clinger"

A blatant lie. I criticize Trump and Republicans all the time.

"holding on to the last conspiracy theory that Trump and his fu*cked up boot lickers are trying to legitimize'

Me: I don't believe voter fraud came close to rising to the level that it changed the outcome of the election. I think legal votes result in Biden winning. I am very confident of that. That's what I believe, I thought for a year Trump was going to lose.

GS response: Jim is one of the conspiracy theorists claiming the election was stolen!

I am an honest, reasonable, thoughtful person, GS. And you can't handle it. So you blatantly lie. How can you interpret my position, as believing in any conspiracy theory? Please explain?

Your side desperately clung to nonsensical conspiracy theories for three years.

Sorry Jim didn't mean to strike a nerve, oh wait yes I did and apparently it worked. FYI my "interpretation" of your position by definition means its an opinion not a lie. Carry on with your defense strategy.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Sorry Jim didn't mean to strike a nerve, oh wait yes I did and apparently it worked. FYI my "interpretation" of your position by definition means its an opinion not a lie. Carry on with your defense strategy.

You struck no nerve. You told a humiliating lie. That doesn't do anything to me, doesn't say anything about me. Just you.

Again, how can any sane person interpret my position as any kind of clinging to stupid conspiracy theories? Please explain?

If I say explicitly that I don't think fraud made a difference, how could ANYONE conclude that I'm clinging to conspiracy theories? How could you possibly connect those dots?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

What the hell is that, Jim? Bunch of double spaced filler in a letter to the editor? Stand up and give us your stance. Are they right, or wrong, in your opinion, to be doing this?


And yes, Trump is the whole party because NO ONE dares stand up to him....

i’m sure there was fraud ( my wife cited very early, but her name wasn’t crossed off when i voted on election day, so she could’ve voted again. there are signed affidavits from people who say they saw irregularities), probably not hundreds of thousands of cases. of course that should be looked into. naturally, trumps words are way over the top and inappropriate.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i’m sure there was fraud ( my wife cited very early, but her name wasn’t crossed off when i voted on election day, so she could’ve voted again. there are signed affidavits from people who say they saw irregularities), probably not hundreds of thousands of cases. of course that should be looked into. naturally, trumps words are way over the top and inappropriate.
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Quick, get this dubious breaking news to Rudy!

You didn’t really answer his question by the way.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Quick, get this dubious breaking news to Rudy!

You didn’t really answer his question by the way.
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What question didn't I answer?

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

What question didn't I answer?

He didn't ask you if you thought Biden didn't win, he essentially asked if you were OK with Trump's narcissistic temper tantrum undermining confidence in our democratic process, politicizing the DOJ and DOJ, hampering our national security and undermining Biden's ability to fight Covid...with many prominent members of his own party just happily playing along.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

undermining Biden's ability to fight Covid...

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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

He didn't ask you if you thought Biden didn't win, he essentially asked if you were OK with Trump's narcissistic temper tantrum undermining confidence in our democratic process, politicizing the DOJ and DOJ, hampering our national security and undermining Biden's ability to fight Covid...with many prominent members of his own party just happily playing along.

And I answered that very clearly - no.

I think it's appropriate to look into credible claims of irregularity (dead people voting, the door left wide open for my wife to vote twice). Byt his rhetoric, as is often the case, is reckless, obnoxious, and way over the top.

Can I answer it any more directly, any more clearly?

"politicizing the DOJ'

Yet you have not a care, for the prior administration's willingness to politicize the DOJ, using a joke of a dossier to mislead the FISA court in order to spy on Carter Page.

Sorry, I know we're not supposed to even discuss any wrongdoing on the left.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

What the hell is that, Jim? Bunch of double spaced filler in a letter to the editor? Stand up and give us your stance. Are they right, or wrong, in your opinion, to be doing this?


And yes, Trump is the whole party because NO ONE dares stand up to him....

"Are they right, or wrong, in your opinion, to be doing this?"

They are right to be looking into it. They are wrong, to be saying that fraud is the reason why Biden won. We don't have any reason to believe that at this point. But there's plenty of reason to believe there was preventable fraud. As I said, I'm one guy, and I sure didn't go looking for any fraud, but I saw a huge hole in the system that would have absolutely allowed my wife to vote twice. Why would anyone believe hers was the only case where that happened? She voted early, way before election day, but her name wasn't crossed off. I was told on election day, that she could come down and vote.

Can I answer it any more directly? Yes, there are some things that need to be investigated, so that all reasonable people feel confident about the results. But Trump should not be shooting his mouth off that he knows he got robbed.

My position? Shut him up, but do a reasonable investigation into claims that have merit.

Is that a crazy notion? I don't think so. It's not partisan conspiracy lunacy that the left engaged in for three years after the 2016 election (we have his tax returns! Russia! Collusion! ) They were calling for impeachment, literally, before he took office. That's not crazy?