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Old 10-29-2020, 09:09 AM   #1
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Ahhh I see Jim has moved into the excuse phase of grief.
tell me, before covid, how
much air time do you think cnn and msnbc dedicated to praising trump for low minority unemployment and criminal justice reform?
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Old 10-29-2020, 09:35 AM   #2
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Jim there are over 20,000 reasons why the coverage seemed negative most of the time, Trump has acted like a nut job since day one and the lies started on Inauguration Day. Actually the lies started as soon as he started running for President.
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Old 10-29-2020, 09:38 AM   #3
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Jim there are over 20,000 reasons why the coverage seemed negative most of the time, Trump has acted like a nut job since day one and the lies started on Inauguration Day. Actually the lies started as soon as he started running for President.
Again, I have zero issue with giving time to his lies, moral lapses, vindictive tweets, etc. That's part of who he is, and it's absolutely fair to call him out for that.

But fairness and accuracy would suggest that some amount of time be dedicated to honest discussions about his achievements. Do you think networks other than Foxnews do that?

The networks still conned you to being unable to just say that he disavowed white supremacists at Charlottesville. The video is there, we know he disavowed them, but you can't admit it.
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Old 10-29-2020, 09:42 AM   #4
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Jim there are over 20,000 reasons why the coverage seemed negative most of the time, Trump has acted like a nut job since day one and the lies started on Inauguration Day. Actually the lies started as soon as he started running for President.
Can you explain to me how we'd be better off, if we had a POTUS who lied less often, but didn't do as good of a job growing the economy, and/or got us into wars we didn't need to be in, or who didn't increase funding for black colleges, or who didn't make us energy independent, and who didn't make this progress in the Middle East?

GS, if you needed immediate life saving surgery, and I was the admitting nurse at the hospital, and I told you this, tell me which you'd pick?

If I said "you can pick from 2 doctors. One is a really nice guy, very honest, and a pretty good doctor. The other is a real SOB who cheats on his wife with porn stars, lies about his golf handicap, hes crass and boorish and vulgar, hates everyone who disagrees with him, but he's a better technical surgeon with a slightly higher survival rate", WHICH WOULD YOU PICK?

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Can you explain to me how we'd be better off, if we had a POTUS who lied less often, but didn't do as good of a job growing the economy, and/or got us into wars we didn't need to be in, or who didn't increase funding for black colleges, or who didn't make us energy independent, and who didn't make this progress in the Middle East?

GS, if you needed immediate life saving surgery, and I was the admitting nurse at the hospital, and I told you this, tell me which you'd pick?

If I said "you can pick from 2 doctors. One is a really nice guy, very honest, and a pretty good doctor. The other is a real SOB who cheats on his wife with porn stars, lies about his golf handicap, hes crass and boorish and vulgar, hates everyone who disagrees with him, but he's a better technical surgeon with a slightly higher survival rate", WHICH WOULD YOU PICK?

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Jim I don’t have to explain, because I think he has done a miserable job, so yes I think anyone with a brain and a skin thicker than tissue paper would have done better. To Petes point above thank god we weren’t pulled into a conflict, I can’t even imagine how badly that might have gone, we he thinks he knows more than anyone. That analogy just proves how desperate you are.
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Jim I don’t have to explain, because I think he has done a miserable job, so yes I think anyone with a brain and a skin thicker than tissue paper would have done better. To Petes point above thank god we weren’t pulled into a conflict, I can’t even imagine how badly that might have gone, we he thinks he knows more than anyone.
"I think he has done a miserable job"

Backed up with logic as unassailable, as saying the economy is at its worst point since the Great Depression. That being the case, he must have done a miserable job.

"To Petes point above thank god we weren’t pulled into a conflict, I can’t even imagine how badly that might have gone"

You don't have to speculate. Ask ISIS how it went to be in a conflict with him.

When you ignore everything good he has done, and focus fanatically on his bad points, I admit he looks really bad.
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Jim there are over 20,000 reasons why the coverage seemed negative most of the time, Trump has acted like a nut job since day one and the lies started on Inauguration Day. Actually the lies started as soon as he started running for President.
The lies started closer to 1946.
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The lies started closer to 1946.
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The lies started closer to 1946.
But Bidens plagiarism, his lies about being arrested with Nelson Mandela, his lies about his civil rights activism in the US, none of those matter. Lies are only bad when Republicans tell them.

Similarly, Biden's willingness to demonize those who disagree with him (Republicans want blacks in chains, blacks ain't really black if they don't vote for Biden), that's OK when Biden does it. Thin-skinned vindictiveness is only problematic when Trump does it.

And profiting off of public service. We aren't supposed to even discuss if Biden did it, but it's a big big deal when Trump does it.
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But , his lies about being arrested with Nelson Mandela,.
Jim your lying about the lie

Joe Biden's claim of being arrested trying to see Nelson Mandela not with him


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Old 10-29-2020, 03:20 PM   #13
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Jim your lying about the lie

Joe Biden's claim of being arrested trying to see Nelson Mandela not with him


OK. But he lied.
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