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10-13-2020, 06:49 AM
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The essense of TDS is defending the most vile scummy petty foul mouthed President that we have ever had.
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10-13-2020, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
the most vile scummy petty foul mouthed
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 because name calling is wrong 
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10-13-2020, 08:01 AM
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The essense of TDS is defending the most vile scummy petty foul mouthed President that we have ever had.
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But when Joe Biden tells a roomful of blacks that Mitt Romney (Mitt Romney!) "wants to put y'all back in chains", that's not dishonest, vile or scummy. That's OK. But when Trump does it, it's bad.
When Hilary says that Trump supporters are deplorable and irredeemable, that wasn't vile or scummy either.
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10-13-2020, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
But when Joe Biden tells a roomful of blacks that Mitt Romney (Mitt Romney!) "wants to put y'all back in chains", that's not dishonest, vile or scummy. That's OK. But when Trump does it, it's bad.
When Hilary says that Trump supporters are deplorable and irredeemable, that wasn't vile or scummy either.
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There you go again Jim trying to make comparison that don't exist
1 insult is equal to 1000 insults how do you convince yourself of such nonsense
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10-13-2020, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
But when Joe Biden tells a roomful of blacks that Mitt Romney (Mitt Romney!) "wants to put y'all back in chains", that's not dishonest, vile or scummy. That's OK. But when Trump does it, it's bad.
When Hilary says that Trump supporters are deplorable and irredeemable, that wasn't vile or scummy either.
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Trump has insulted people thousands of times - Biden or Hillary not so much.
Even though she was probably thinking of the Repubs. who lied about Obama's religion and birth Clinton apologized the next day.
Edit - or what wdmso said.
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10-13-2020, 10:31 AM
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Trump has insulted people thousands of times - Biden or Hillary not so much.
Even though she was probably thinking of the Repubs. who lied about Obama's religion and birth Clinton apologized the next day.
Edit - or what wdmso said.
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So it's OK for you to call someone scummy because you didn't do it thousands of times?
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10-13-2020, 10:43 AM
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So it's OK for you to call someone scummy because you didn't do it thousands of times?
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sometimes it is and sometimes it isn't. but I tend to let people slide when comparing that person to someone who does that sort of thing thousands of times.
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10-13-2020, 11:41 AM
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sometimes it is and sometimes it isn't. but I tend to let people slide when comparing that person to someone who does that sort of thing thousands of times.
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So name calling is OK if it isn't done thousands of times. I haven't counted, but I don't think anyone on the political forum in the past 10 years has name called thousands of times.
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10-13-2020, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
So name calling is OK if it isn't done thousands of times. I haven't counted, but I don't think anyone on the political forum in the past 10 years has name called thousands of times.
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whatever
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10-13-2020, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
Trump has insulted people thousands of times - Biden or Hillary not so much.
Even though she was probably thinking of the Repubs. who lied about Obama's religion and birth Clinton apologized the next day.
Edit - or what wdmso said.
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I have no possible way to deny that Trump insults more often. Obviously that's correct. So a president is allowed a certain number of insults before he's unfit, and by an amazing outcome, Biden and Hilary are below that number, Trump is above. Funny how that always works.
Similarly, it was OK when Obama put kids in cages, but Trump does it too often. Again, the maximum allowable number, coincidentally and not because of politics, is more than Obama did, but less than Trump.
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10-13-2020, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
I have no possible way to deny that Trump insults more often. Obviously that's correct. So a president is allowed a certain number of insults before he's unfit, and by an amazing outcome, Biden and Hilary are below that number, Trump is above. Funny how that always works.So would you treat one of your sons the same way when he says something for the first time vs if he repeatedly does that egregious thing over and over? How about if he apologizes for doing/saying that egregious thing?
Similarly, it was OK when Obama put kids in cages, but Trump does it too often. Again, the maximum allowable number, coincidentally and not because of politics, is more than Obama did, but less than Trump.
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The difference bt when Obama did it and Trump has been explained to you many times.
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10-13-2020, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
The difference bt when Obama did it and Trump has been explained to you many times.
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"would you treat one of your sons the same way when he says something for the first time vs if he repeatedly does that egregious thing over and over?"
I happily concede that doing something once, and doing it constantly, are different. I didn't dispute that.
My observation, and I m correct, is that there a long string of negative behavior that most politicians engage in. It's funny that for each negative behavior, Obama/Biden/Hilary all engage in that behavior below the acceptable maximum number of times allowed, and Trump is always over the maximum. Like putting kids in cages. Right? No one gave a crap when Obama did it, no one even noticed. But when Trump does it, it's monstrous.
As I said, I'm sure that's all just a coincidence and not a moving of the goalposts.
"The difference bt when Obama did it and Trump has been explained to you many times. "
Right. Trump did it too many times. But I don't recall seeing a threshold as to how many times you could do it, before it was problematic. But that threshold, again, was higher than the number of times Obama did it, and below the number of times Trump did it.
It's funny how none of these things are any kind of an issue until Trump came along.
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10-13-2020, 12:38 PM
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I happily concede that doing something once, and doing it constantly, are different. I didn't dispute that.
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That is the key
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