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Old 09-21-2020, 07:07 AM   #1
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There is no healthcare plan. There is no infrastructure plan. There is no plan to deal with the pandemic. There is no plan to deal with the climate crisis. There is no plan to deal with structural racism. There is no plan to deal with economic injustice. There is only an idiot and 200K dead.
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Old 09-21-2020, 09:47 AM   #2
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There is no healthcare plan. There is no infrastructure plan. There is no plan to deal with the pandemic. There is no plan to deal with the climate crisis. There is no plan to deal with structural racism. There is no plan to deal with economic injustice. There is only an idiot and 200K dead.
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You asked about Trump and Christians. You were falsely saying that Christians think Trump is a good example of what a Christian should be. I pointed out how absurd that is. That's not hwy we like him. We like him because he's a far better ally than Biden has shown to be. Try. Making. That. Wrong.

Have Little Sisters of the Poor had to sue Trump to get their civil rights back? Or Hobby Lobby? No. Because Trump looks out for them.

I'm on your side that the GOP needs a better healthcare vision. No argument here.

"There is no plan to deal with economic injustice"

That's horsebleep. There is a plan, it it's a superior plan to the Obama/Biden plan. The proof is in the data and results, look no further.
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Old 09-21-2020, 10:50 AM   #3
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There is no healthcare plan. There is no infrastructure plan. There is no plan to deal with the pandemic. There is no plan to deal with the climate crisis. There is no plan to deal with structural racism. There is no plan to deal with economic injustice. There is only an idiot and 200K dead.
There is no power in the Constitution given to the President to create plans for the nation. The President executes the plans of Congress.

There is no power in the Constitution given to Congress to cure all the ills of the nation.

There is an ongoing plan to deal with the pandemic.

There are various health care plans, but no constitutional power given to Congress to initiate nor enforce a national health care plan.

The Constitution is a plan to deal with racism and justice.

Congress is responsible for planning any federal environmental regulation. From the Environmental and Energy Study Institute:

"In the United States, federal action on climate change has stagnated in Congress, and the Clean Air Act has become the central national vehicle for developing emissions reduction regulations.

"The EPA is likely to give states flexibility in pursuing compliance of its emission reduction regulations, which may spur innovative methods of compliance. For example, RGGI, a cap and trade program in ten northeast states, and California’s emerging trading program, may serve as these states’ implementation plans.

"Given the traditional and Constitutional allocations of governmental power in the United States, much greater attention should be given to how any national program can provide incentives to and preserve the autonomy of state and local governments.

"While Congress has stalled in passing comprehensive climate change legislation, many states and localities have taken their own steps to reduce greenhouse gas emissions."



Your notion that the President has such sweeping powers is very Progressive--but not constitutional.
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Old 09-21-2020, 10:56 AM   #4
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There is no power in the Constitution given to the President to create plans for the nation. The President executes the plans of Congress.

There is no power in the Constitution given to Congress to cure all the ills of the nation.

There is an ongoing plan to deal with the pandemic.

There are various health care plans, but no constitutional power given to Congress to initiate nor enforce a national health care plan.

The Constitution is a plan to deal with racism and justice.

Congress is responsible for planning any federal environmental regulation. From the Environmental and Energy Study Institute:

"In the United States, federal action on climate change has stagnated in Congress, and the Clean Air Act has become the central national vehicle for developing emissions reduction regulations.

"The EPA is likely to give states flexibility in pursuing compliance of its emission reduction regulations, which may spur innovative methods of compliance. For example, RGGI, a cap and trade program in ten northeast states, and California’s emerging trading program, may serve as these states’ implementation plans.

"Given the traditional and Constitutional allocations of governmental power in the United States, much greater attention should be given to how any national program can provide incentives to and preserve the autonomy of state and local governments.

"While Congress has stalled in passing comprehensive climate change legislation, many states and localities have taken their own steps to reduce greenhouse gas emissions."



Your notion that the President has such sweeping powers is very Progressive--but not constitutional.
So who’s building the wall and where did the funding come from?
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Old 09-21-2020, 10:58 AM   #5
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So who’s building the wall and where did the funding come from?
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Building? I think you meant "built" and Mexico paid for it.
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Old 09-21-2020, 11:43 AM   #6
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So who’s building the wall and where did the funding come from?
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The money came from Congress. Building a wall is a congressional wish. Trump is executing it.
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Old 09-21-2020, 11:50 AM   #7
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The money came from Congress. Building a wall is a congressional wish. Trump is executing it.
Arguably wrong, that’s why it’s in court
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Old 09-21-2020, 11:54 AM   #8
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Arguably wrong, that’s why it’s in court
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If it's arguably wrong, then argue it. Don't just say it.
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