Illinois teen arrested in fatal shooting at Kenosha protest, police say

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Marxist Soldiers?

Yes. Sex Offenders too it seems.

Well, ALLEGEDLY, one guy was a Registered Sex Offender, another has a history of battery and domestic abuse, and the guy with the paramedic hat (ye right) and the Glock is a self-proclaimed member if the People's Revolution Movement. His record includes being intoxicated with a gun.

What is it about Lefty Violence that attracts people like that. huh.

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status...33015548739587

Originally Posted by spence

"Trained" Marxist Soldiers. It's a pre-requisite to being an Antifa terrorist.

I would not conflate LARPING with training.

Originally Posted by spence

Sounds like they need to speed up their acquisitions of body cameras.

I've read he had a knife in the car, I keep one in the car also. It appears he did have an open warrant for a small domestic issue in July. We don't know if the officers even knew about it. That being said after watching both videos I can't see any justification for 7 shots into the back of someone who's not acting in a violent manner to anyone around and has three kids in the car.

I also assume you would not be resisting detention not have warrants for your arrest. If you did, and you were white, you may have reached same outcome.

Originally Posted by wdmso

So the cop thinks hes going for a knife ok but still shooting him 7 times in the back is far from justified.

Yet a man kills 2 injuries 1 walks by responding police with his hand up and his ar 15 in clear view with bystander repeatedly yells that “that dude just shot someone,” but an officer in one vehicle simply asks if anyone is injured and drives toward the slain and wounded protesters — leaving the shooter to walk away.


And we wonder why people have a issue with police seeing the response between the 2 are so opposite?

It easy to see why people think what tbey think

Black man maybe reaching for a knife gets 7 rounds in the back

White guy with ar 15 kills 2 hurts another police drive by him ?

Other than race i find it hard to explain what else it could be

Many black groups have walked armed and not been arrested by police. Not enough information on site at the time.

But so I understand this: you want the police detaining white people causing trouble but not detaining black people causing trouble? Rather than people causing trouble regardless of anything??

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Yes. Sex Offenders too it seems.

Well, ALLEGEDLY, one guy was a Registered Sex Offender, another has a history of battery and domestic abuse, and the guy with the paramedic hat (ye right) and the Glock is a self-proclaimed member if the People's Revolution Movement. His record includes being intoxicated with a gun.

What is it about Lefty Violence that attracts people like that. huh.

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status...33015548739587




I would not conflate LARPING with training.



I also assume you would not be resisting detention not have warrants for your arrest. If you did, and you were white, you may have reached same outcome.




Many black groups have walked armed and not been arrested by police. Not enough information on site at the time.

But so I understand this: you want the police detaining white people causing trouble but not detaining black people causing trouble? Rather than people causing trouble regardless of anything??

No I want police to stop using excessive force . On all americans but it seems this suggestion is anti law enforcement in conservative circles.

I do not want see looters and arsonist burning down areas . But it seems the vilification by The Republicans lumping protesters into one group. Yet there never seems to be an effort to stop the behavior. Via dialog or force. Seeing we hear about all the molotov cocktails but never actually see them . We see police just keeping holding a line. Night after night. But were told by the Trump and his minions all the protesters all end in some form ists ..socialists communists anarchists and dont be fooled they are not protesting police brutality .. they are comming for YOU
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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by wdmso

No I want police to stop using excessive force . On all americans but it seems this suggestion is anti law enforcement in conservative circles.

I too want to see excesive use of force stopped being used against Americans. I know some people that have excessive force used against them and it was justified, and others when it was not. But right now we have situations that happen when it is justified or not we do not know because people knee jerk into rioting (different from protest) before any facts are discovered.

Originally Posted by wdmso

I do not want see looters and arsonist burning down areas . But it seems the vilification by The Republicans lumping protesters into one group.

When the news says that everyone is mostly peaceful protesting and won't COVER the actual riots

Originally Posted by wdmso

Yet there never seems to be an effort to stop the behavior. Via dialog or force. Seeing we hear about all the molotov cocktails but never actually see them . We see police just keeping holding a line. Night after night. But were told by the Trump and his minions all the protesters all end in some form ists ..socialists communists anarchists and dont be fooled they are not protesting police brutality .. they are comming for YOU
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It is up to the local elected officials to to work that out, some have, some have blamed everyone else for the problem (much as you seem to do) and some have blamed others yet demanded their own homes be blocked off from protesters, cough Lightfoot.



You and Spence are apparently OK with the mostly peaceful protesting of federal buildings, the looting of people's business and when it happens you blame the right.

[JohnR]

Well, ALLEGEDLY, one guy was a Registered Sex Offender, another has a history of battery and domestic abuse, and the guy with the paramedic hat (ye right) and the Glock is a self-proclaimed member if the People's Revolution Movement. His record includes being intoxicated with a gun.

What is it about Lefty Violence that attracts people like that. huh.

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status...33015548739587

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by JohnR

I too want to see excesive use of force stopped being used against Americans. I know some people that have excessive force used against them and it was justified, and others when it was not. But right now we have situations that happen when it is justified or not we do not know because people knee jerk into rioting (different from protest) before any facts are discovered.



When the news says that everyone is mostly peaceful protesting and won't COVER the actual riots






It is up to the local elected officials to to work that out, some have, some have blamed everyone else for the problem (much as you seem to do) and some have blamed others yet demanded their own homes be blocked off from protesters, cough Lightfoot.



You and Spence are apparently OK with the mostly peaceful protesting of federal buildings, the looting of people's business and when it happens you blame the right.

There is nothing that guy did to warrant shooting him 7 times in the back.. it cant be spun.. if someone points a gun at a cop .and they get shot by the officer iam good with that .

who blames everyone else? his Name is Donald Trump


Thanks for that classic conservative response,

Is thats what you think ... that being against police brutality equals anti law enforcement and support of protester equal support of looting and riots

And let me guess being against Trump

Equals being against America..

In your view ?

Yet any time police shoot an un armed black man
All i read is blame the guy who got shot.. should have done this or that or he had a record on and on .. and its not accidental same thing with this guy
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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Trump is the only person who gains an advantage from this and as I said three months ago he's playing it for every bit he can.
He needs it because he failed as president, he's still failing.
It's his watch, he's in charge not Biden or the Dems

Originally Posted by spence

Check the logs, I think Pence might have hacked your account.

Antifa Myth
(Pete's thread)
Spence June 1 (Vastly Overated because 98% of violent extremist attacks are white suprems)
Wayne's it's OK because they oppose Trump


The three of you in particular have repeatedly defended the mostly peaceful rioting by a small tiny group that are OK becaues they are against Trump.

Originally Posted by wdmso

There is nothing that guy did to warrant shooting him 7 times in the back.. it cant be spun.. if someone points a gun at a cop .and they get shot by the officer iam good with that .

We don't know that because we are no longer allowed to complete an investigation. You don't know if he has a gun in that door pocket, nor does the cop but the cop has probably been told by dispatch that Blake has a warrant / DV. But you have decided its OK because feels / oppression.

Originally Posted by wdmso

who blames everyone else? his Name is Donald Trump

Thanks for that classic conservative response,

Is thats what you think ... that being against police brutality equals anti law enforcement and support of protester equal support of looting and riots

Trump didn't go shoot Floyd. Trump didn't go loot Portland.

Originally Posted by wdmso

And let me guess being against Trump

Equals being against America..

In your view ?

Actually no. I did not vote for Trump. I support the 1A, and peaceful assembly. I think the Constitution, even though imperfect, is the best document ever created. I have zero support for little Marxists Che Wannabe Commies. Which, BTW, was common among Dems too until the useful idiots got involved.

Originally Posted by wdmso

Yet any time police shoot an un armed black man
All i read is blame the guy who got shot.. should have done this or that or he had a record on and on .. and its not accidental same thing with this guy
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Sometimes it is justified, sometimes it is not - this is why it is supposed to be investigated.

But why let facts stand in the way of a good riot.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Antifa Myth
(Pete's thread)
Spence June 1 (Vastly Overated because 98% of violent extremist attacks are white suprems)
Wayne's it's OK because they oppose Trump


The three of you in particular have repeatedly defended the mostly peaceful rioting by a small tiny group that are OK becaues they are against Trump.




We don't know that because we are no longer allowed to complete an investigation. You don't know if he has a gun in that door pocket, nor does the cop but the cop has probably been told by dispatch that Blake has a warrant / DV. But you have decided its OK because feels / oppression.






Trump didn't go shoot Floyd. Trump didn't go loot Portland.






Actually no. I did not vote for Trump. I support the 1A, and peaceful assembly. I think the Constitution, even though imperfect, is the best document ever created. I have zero support for little Marxists Che Wannabe Commies. Which, BTW, was common among Dems too until the useful idiots got involved.





Sometimes it is justified, sometimes it is not - this is why it is supposed to be investigated.

But why let facts stand in the way of a good riot.

Only in America can people support killing a person based on a feeling I thought he had a gun or thought he was going for a knife .. so I shot him 7 times in the back.... you shoot 7 time for 3 reason fear or anger or your in a shoot out what facts would make this ok?

Even in Iraq aka combat zone me or my men did not have the latitude to shoot an Iraqi because he might be armed or I thought he was reaching for something

Sad that in the united states Police rules of engagement are weaker than one in a war zone against their own citizens

I am fully aware of the responsibilities of wearing a weapon and taser in public plainclothes walking convicted felons from the car, down public streets and thru hospital lobby's eyeballing everyone on the off chance that today's the day . Is his victim here an angry family member a rival gang? Going to act..

So I see my criticisms of the shooting not form the view of some guy on the couch who has no clue . But from a position of experience and a supervisor... nor iam I suggesting he was a bad person or bad officer. But some mistakes cant be ingnored or undone with arguments like the guy had a record or he beat his wife . Or had a rape charge, or the color of their skin. thats just not fair treatment under the law .

[Got Stripers]

MSNBC just ran a couple telling video comparisons on how some white mass murderers are calmly and peacefully arrested and in the case of Charlestown Church killer, even taken to Burger King right after because he was hungry. The other one show cased a naked crazed killer of three, actually attacking a grounds keeper and yet the multiple police let him run around clearly a threat and all he gets is some pepper spray. The average white American has no clue the profiling and real potential danger young black men live with and the way it might impact their behavior in a stressful encounter with a white police officer which might give him the impression his life might be in danger. Easy for us white men and women living in our comfortable homes in the suburbs to say that black man should have just calmly given up, when we don’t understand the decades of abuse that might shade their instinctive reaction.

Did your white mom and dad after giving you the birds and the bees talk, sit you down and warn you about how your life may be taken from you in a second because of your skin color, live a year in their shoes and your opinion of these incidents might change.

Again the rioting and property damage is wrong and plays right into Trumps play book, but there is a reason for concern. I’m not saying defund police, but they are protected from any criminal charges by contract in far to many municipalities. Trump won’t change anything because he to believes he is above the law as the nations top police officer.