No lockdown, no masks, nNo hysteria... NO PROBLEM: Sweden didn't go into a lockdown a

[Ian]

Your point?
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Ian

Your point?
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Sandbrook's sub-title of the article is " Is this proof we got it all terribly wrong?" Those who wanted to open up the economy were criticized as anti-science or protecting what was left of the "Trump economy." Those who insisted that we must follow the science were positive that the science demanded a lockdown, and still does to a great degree.

Sweden did not destroy its economy, life and living is fairly normal there, and the virus has basically been relegated to a sort of flu while the rest of the world that had draconian and extended lockdowns have shattered economies, and are looking for more lockdowns as the virus surges.

Did we get it wrong? And has our version of "the science" been flawed? And should we be opening up more and locking down, or threatening to, less?

[spence]

Originally Posted by Ian

Your point?
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The point is that covid is a democratic plot to rig the election.

I’d note though that Sweden has a higher covid mortality rate than the US.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

The point is that covid is a democratic plot to rig the election.

I’d note though that Sweden has a higher covid mortality rate than the US.
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yet much lower than our states run by democrat governors...

btw...US deaths/million pop 547

Sweden deaths/million pop 575

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

The point is that covid is a democratic plot to rig the election.

I’d note though that Sweden has a higher covid mortality rate than the US.
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Did you note this from the article: "According to Sebastian Rushworth, an American-born doctor in a Stockholm A&E department, he hasn’t seen a single Covid-19 patient in a month: ‘Basically,’ he writes, ‘Covid is in all practical senses over and done with in Sweden.’ "

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Did you note this from the article: "According to Sebastian Rushworth, an American-born doctor in a Stockholm A&E department, he hasn’t seen a single Covid-19 patient in a month: ‘Basically,’ he writes, ‘Covid is in all practical senses over and done with in Sweden.’ "

And many doctors could say the same in Vermont, just think of it like Tweety does of absentee ballots.
Except in Florida, of course
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

And many doctors could say the same in Vermont,

We don't know that Vermont's lockdown was necessary. We do know that Sweden didn't lock down and got the "same" result you noted as Vermont.

And Vermont didn't need some "national plan" other than what the Federal government already did. It's called federalism. Separation of powers. Limited central government. States having far more power to shape their destiny than you seem to care for.

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

We don't know that Vermont's lockdown was necessary. We do know that Sweden didn't lock down and got the "same" result you noted as Vermont.

That's not what he said and not what occurred.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

We don't know that Vermont's lockdown was necessary. We do know that Sweden didn't lock down and got the "same" result you noted as Vermont.

And Vermont didn't need some "national plan" other than what the Federal government already did. It's called federalism. Separation of powers. Limited central government. States having far more power to shape their destiny than you seem to care for.

As usual you confuse power with leadership.
Just like the weak leader who had to gas people to go make a political statement and demonstrate his power.

All is not perfect in Sweden, though I’m surprised that your example of good behavior is a country with national healthcare, a generous safety net to support those who fell ill and guaranteed income. Perhaps that influenced their people to do the voluntary isolation.

Swedish’s top epidemiologist, Anders Tegnell, said in an interview with Swedish Radio that the country made some mistakes. “If we were to encounter the same illness with the same knowledge that we have today, I think our response would land somewhere in between what Sweden did and what the rest of the world has done,” he said.
In any case, the most instructive phase of Sweden’s approach may lie ahead: “It will be interesting to find out whether they can respond now, or whether they’re going to keep going with a strategy that seems like it’s not working,” says Schneider.
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