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07-12-2020, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
just sayin'...
"One-time defenders of unsavory Clinton and Obama pardons are outraged by the president’s commutation of his old associate’s 40-month sentence.
Bill Clinton pardoned his own brother for felony distribution of cocaine. And a key witness in the Whitewater scandal for which he and Hillary Clinton were under investigation. And three others convicted in independent counsel Ken Starr’s probe. And Marc Rich, in what was a straight up political payoff. And his CIA director. And his HUD secretary. And eight people convicted in an investigation of his Agriculture Department.
Clinton also commuted the sentences of convicted terrorists, some of whom hadn’t even asked for clemency. Shameless as he was, though, even he couldn’t bring himself to pardon Oscar Lopez Rivera, the defiantly unrepentant FALN leader.
President Obama took care of that.
Obama also commuted the sentence of a U.S. soldier who passed top-secret information to WikiLeaks. He pardoned his former Joint Chiefs of Staff vice chairman, who’d been convicted of making false statements about a leak of classified information to the New York Times. And when he couldn’t get Congress to amend federal drug laws the way he wanted them amended, Obama used the pardon power to slash hundreds of sentences, under an executive initiative later sharply criticized by the Obama-appointed DOJ inspector general.
I can’t get too whipped up over President Trump’s commutation of Roger Stone’s 40-month sentence for non-violent criminal obstruction of a bogusly based and ridiculously over-prosecuted investigation.
Not under circumstances in which jail-house doors have been swung open all over the country by federal, state, and local governments, which are using the coronavirus pandemic as a rationale to release both hardened criminals and elderly convicts (i.e., those around Stone’s age)."
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Denial is a wonderful thing... or the ability to only use 1 or 2 pardons from previous adminstrations leave out Bush. And not see a pattern in Trumps 25 pardons and 11 commutations.... just saying
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Last edited by wdmso; 07-12-2020 at 07:31 AM..
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07-12-2020, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Denial is a wonderful thing...
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denial? |
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07-12-2020, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
denial?
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yep denial that Trump didn't do anything wrong or unethical or has clearly abused his authority once again ..
I am i wrong
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07-12-2020, 07:41 AM
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Partisan
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A partisan is a committed member of a political party or army. In multi-party systems, the term is used for politicians who strongly support their party's policies and are reluctant to compromise with their political opponents.
It is a head scratcher as to why this behavior is allowed to continue by our elected representatives.... Though supporters from both sides of the aisle will complain about pols lining their own pockets.... It always comes down to money, doesn't it?
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07-12-2020, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by nightfighter
Partisan
definition
politics
A partisan is a committed member of a political party or army. In multi-party systems, the term is used for politicians who strongly support their party's policies and are reluctant to compromise with their political opponents.
It is a head scratcher as to why this behavior is allowed to continue by our elected representatives.... Though supporters from both sides of the aisle will complain about pols lining their own pockets.... It always comes down to money, doesn't it?
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I think you can point to Newt Gingrich, rise of K street and endless Clinton non scandals as the turning point. Country came together briefly after 9/11 but even that unraveled once the truth became clear. Trump has simply taken it to entirely a new level.
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07-12-2020, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
I think you can point to Newt Gingrich, rise of K street and endless Clinton non scandals as the turning point. Country came together briefly after 9/11 but even that unraveled once the truth became clear. Trump has simply taken it to entirely a new level.
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spoken like a blind partisan  |
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07-12-2020, 01:41 PM
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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07-12-2020, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
yep denial that Trump didn't do anything wrong or unethical or has clearly abused his authority once again ..
I am i wrong
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did he do anything wrong, unethical or clearly abusive in this case? |
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