The BS Pipeline

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Nobody is suggesting the police should be disbanded.
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pretty cool "restructure"

published 8 hours ago
Seattle protesters declare 'cop free zone' after police leave precinct

Seattle has been making big news in the last couple of days. The first major story emerged Tuesday when police ceded an entire neighborhood to Antifa and Black Lives Matter, representatives of which barricaded a large segment of the Capitol Hill neighborhood and declared the area an “autonomous” community, separate from Seattle itself. The second newsworthy story occurred when thousands of leftist protesters led by Black Lives Matter and Antifa entered City Hall shortly after midnight on Wednesday, demanding that Mayor Jenny Durkan (a Democrat) resign.

On Tuesday, the police in Seattle’s Eastern District had initially battled with the rioters, using tear gas and flashbangs. Eventually, recognizing that anything short of a military-style defense was a waste of police time and put police lives at risk, the police abandoned the Eastern Precinct. They shredded important and confidential documents, boarded up the windows, and walked away, leaving the people whom they serve to the mob’s mercy.

The mob set up barricades around the streets and announced a new independent community called the “Capitol Hill autonomous zone” or “Free Capitol Hill.” Because this is Seattle, residents of the city, rather than looking at the probably and imminent end of a comfortable life predicated on the smooth functioning of modern civil services (law enforcement, food delivery, garbage pick-ups, street cleaning, etc.), immediately donated huge amounts of food, water, and medical supplies to allow the anarchists to settle in for a long siege.


https://www.capitolhillseattle.com/2...east-precinct/

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

pretty cool "restructure"

published 8 hours ago
Seattle protesters declare 'cop free zone' after police leave precinct

Seattle has been making big news in the last couple of days. The first major story emerged Tuesday when police ceded an entire neighborhood to Antifa and Black Lives Matter, representatives of which barricaded a large segment of the Capitol Hill neighborhood and declared the area an “autonomous” community, separate from Seattle itself. The second newsworthy story occurred when thousands of leftist protesters led by Black Lives Matter and Antifa entered City Hall shortly after midnight on Wednesday, demanding that Mayor Jenny Durkan (a Democrat) resign.

On Tuesday, the police in Seattle’s Eastern District had initially battled with the rioters, using tear gas and flashbangs. Eventually, recognizing that anything short of a military-style defense was a waste of police time and put police lives at risk, the police abandoned the Eastern Precinct. They shredded important and confidential documents, boarded up the windows, and walked away, leaving the people whom they serve to the mob’s mercy.

The mob set up barricades around the streets and announced a new independent community called the “Capitol Hill autonomous zone” or “Free Capitol Hill.” Because this is Seattle, residents of the city, rather than looking at the probably and imminent end of a comfortable life predicated on the smooth functioning of modern civil services (law enforcement, food delivery, garbage pick-ups, street cleaning, etc.), immediately donated huge amounts of food, water, and medical supplies to allow the anarchists to settle in for a long siege.


https://www.capitolhillseattle.com/2...east-precinct/

Funny, the blog post you cite doesn't even mention anything about BLM or Antifa. All the police did was pull back from their barricade and it looks like the tensions went away...

But keep spreading misinformation, maybe you could work for the Trump campaign.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Funny, the blog post you cite doesn't even mention anything about BLM or Antifa.

ok....and nobody is calling for defunding the police

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

ok....and nobody is calling for defunding the police

Lots of people are, it just doesn't mean what you think it means.

[Ian]

Originally Posted by spence

Lots of people are, it just doesn't mean what you think it means.

Using ambiguous terms to describe a movement that impacts all of society certainly helps to distract from the conversation we all wish would be happening

The weird part of all of this is that I feel the terms other than "defund the police" have been used for years before this and never got the response/reaction they are getting now.

So maybe the reality is if people had listened in the past, words wouldn't be such a sticking point now.

[Pete F.]

When one of the Bush family denounces “systemic racism” and Mitt Romney marches for Black Lives Matter, you know something fundamental has changed.

The tides of public opinion have shifted and that's leaving Trump* stranded on a shrinking “law and order” island.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Ian

Using ambiguous terms to describe a movement that impacts all of society certainly helps to distract from the conversation we all wish would be happening

The weird part of all of this is that I feel the terms other than "defund the police" have been used for years before this and never got the response/reaction they are getting now.

So maybe the reality is if people had listened in the past, words wouldn't be such a sticking point now.

I think it's just meant to be provocative. Hasn't had the audience attention until now. I don't think shrinking budgets to just appease is helpful, but it's a good dialogue to see how we can improve public health and safety, that may include defunding some of the police.

[Ian]

Originally Posted by spence

I think it's just meant to be provocative. Hasn't had the audience attention until now. I don't think shrinking budgets to just appease is helpful, but it's a good dialogue to see how we can improve public health and safety, that may include defunding some of the police.

Change is hard

This all being said, I believe there are some folks out there "in charge" of local municipalities who actually believe that a system-wide removal of law enforcement funding is what is being discussed, and are supportive of it. So the provocative nature of it is actually having a dual-edged effect.

Again, that might just be a casualty of war, but it doesn;t help the dialog on this forum because it fuels opposing opinions with facts.

[Pete F.]

American democracy isn't pretty, is it?