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Old 06-02-2020, 02:13 PM   #1
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QUOTE=Pete F.;1194305]There is no right to riot... But there is a fundamental—a Constitutional—right to protest, and I’m against clearing out a peaceful protest for a photo op that treats the Word of God as a political prop.
If you don't want him to "hide" in a bunker, then if he comes out, wherever he goes, the secret service along with law enforcement will clear out the area. This is what happens with every President, especially in dangerous situations.

The Word of God is not a prop. Holding up the Bible, regardless of its orientation, is an affirmation of the importance of its message in times when we especially need to adhere to its Words. You may wish to scoff at his sincerity, but you could do that to Christ himself, as did the Pharisees when he spoke the Word of God to them.

Your using his holding up the Word of God as insincere is using the Word of God as a prop to attack him. You can't know what he honestly thinks about the Bible and God's Word. Christ was closest to the simple sinners who sought his help, rather than the know it all and haughty self-righteous who thought they were better. He forgave and saved several sinners, including the thief on the cross if they professed to believe in him, on the spot.

Trump's past life does not discount that he has had a come to Jesus moment. But, then, you think you know it all.

Many, who you may mock, think that the Word of God is what's needed more than anything at this troubled time in or nation.

But you may think you know all that's needed to judge them.[/QUOTE]

You state Pete can’t know what a Trump is thinking and in the same post state Trump had a come to Jesus moment, so he can’t read minds but you can.

I personally believe that Trump did it strictly for the optics and photo op, I seriously doubt he has ever had a come to Jesus moment, that’s my opinion.
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Old 06-02-2020, 03:30 PM   #2
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I personally believe that Trump did it strictly for the optics and photo op, I seriously doubt he has ever had a come to Jesus moment, that’s my opinion.
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Old 06-02-2020, 04:21 PM   #3
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If you don't want him to "hide" in a bunker, then if he comes out, wherever he goes, the secret service along with law enforcement will clear out the area. This is what happens with every President, especially in dangerous situations.

The Word of God is not a prop. Holding up the Bible, regardless of its orientation, is an affirmation of the importance of its message in times when we especially need to adhere to its Words. You may wish to scoff at his sincerity, but you could do that to Christ himself, as did the Pharisees when he spoke the Word of God to them.

Your using his holding up the Word of God as insincere is using the Word of God as a prop to attack him. You can't know what he honestly thinks about the Bible and God's Word. Christ was closest to the simple sinners who sought his help, rather than the know it all and haughty self-righteous who thought they were better. He forgave and saved several sinners, including the thief on the cross if they professed to believe in him, on the spot.

Trump's past life does not discount that he has had a come to Jesus moment. But, then, you think you know it all.

Many, who you may mock, think that the Word of God is what's needed more than anything at this troubled time in or nation.

But you may think you know all that's needed to judge them.
You state Pete can’t know what a Trump is thinking and in the same post state Trump had a come to Jesus moment, so he can’t read minds but you can.

You're right. I didn't state it the way I was thinking it. Instead of saying "does not discount that he has had a come to Jesus moment." I should have said "does not discount that he might have had a come to Jesus moment."--which is what I meant.

I personally believe that Trump did it strictly for the optics and photo op, I seriously doubt he has ever had a come to Jesus moment, that’s my opinion.[/QUOTE]

That's a good, honest, way of stating it. But claiming for certain that it was a prop is making an assumption. And quite possibly a disrespectful one to people of faith. But, then, as I said, Peete thinks he knows it all.
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That's a good, honest, way of stating it. But claiming for certain that it was a prop is making an assumption. And quite possibly a disrespectful one to people of faith. But, then, as I said, Peete thinks he knows it all.
You can’t say that making that assumption is possibly disrespectful to people of faith because what he did wasn’t faithful or religious.

He held up a bible backwards and upside down, didn’t say a prayer, and spouted some broken BS about making things awesome until they stopped taking pictures and then abruptly walked away.

If that’s not disrespectful to people of the episcopal faith, nothing is.
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