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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Navarro: China Deliberately Allowed Coronavirus to Spread Outside Its Borders

Classic and the faithful response


Of course they allowed it to spread because it was a planned biological attack against the United States and all the European
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Do you think China just made a mistake when they stopped travel to and from Wuhan to the rest of China when the virus hit, but it allowed millions to travel to the rest of the world from wuhan and from the rest of the world to Wuhan at that same time? That it was just a little slip in judgment? Just a bureaucratic error?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Do you think China just made a mistake when they stopped travel to and from Wuhan to the rest of China when the virus hit, but it allowed millions to travel to the rest of the world from wuhan and from the rest of the world to Wuhan at that same time? That it was just a little slip in judgment? Just a bureaucratic error?

nothing this administration says, can be true. everything is a lie. if trump says “ two plus two is four”, these people would shriek “the hell it is”.
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[Pete F.]

"So far we have lost nobody to coronavirus in the United States and you wonder if the press is in hysteria mode"

Do you think Trump was lying when he said he believed Xi?

Dead to date 91,306

Don't be Eric

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

"So far we have lost nobody to coronavirus in the United States and you wonder if the press is in hysteria mode"

That may have been true at that time.

Do you think Trump was lying when he said he believed Xi?

Possibly. Suppose it depends on what thing Xi said that DT said he believed. Or maybe he was just being diplomatic. He certainly has doubts about some of the things Xi says now.

Dead to date 91,306

Ooops. That may have been true at the time, but it's probably a bit higher now. Stay with it and keep letting us know.

Don't be Eric

You too. And don't be Adam Schiff. He's probably told way more significant lies than Eric.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

nothing this administration says, can be true. everything is a lie. if trump says “ two plus two is four”, these people would shriek “the hell it is”.
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Jim thats what happens when you Lie ...please read the fable of the boy who cried wolf


Trump and his administration have squandered all the credibility they had long before Covid 19 ...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim thats what happens when you Lie ...please read the fable of the boy who cried wolf


Trump and his administration have squandered all the credibility they had long before Covid 19 ...

I'd say you guys, the ones who keep saying life as we know it cannot survive Trump, are the ones who need to read it.

I agree he's a liar. That doesn't mean every single thing he says, even the obvious, is false. You guys have a reflexive reaction to everything he says and does, a reaction that doesn't involve your brain at all.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I'd say you guys, the ones who keep saying life as we know it cannot survive Trump, are the ones who need to read it.

I agree he's a liar. That doesn't mean every single thing he says, even the obvious, is false. You guys have a reflexive reaction to everything he says and does, a reaction that doesn't involve your brain at all.

Jim when Are you just going to give up its Him not us thats the problem


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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Do you think China just made a mistake when they stopped travel to and from Wuhan to the rest of China when the virus hit, but it allowed millions to travel to the rest of the world from wuhan and from the rest of the world to Wuhan at that same time? That it was just a little slip in judgment? Just a bureaucratic error?

do you think chinese had a virus net to stop it .. we couldn't stop it and still can't but you expect a different standard from the chinese


I doubt millions left wuhan to travel the world I do know

430,000 People Have Traveled From China to U.S. Since Coronavirus Surfaced
There were 1,300 direct flights to 17 cities before President Trump’s travel restrictions. Since then, nearly 40,000 Americans and other authorized travelers have made the trip,

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

do you think chinese had a virus net to stop it .. we couldn't stop it and still can't but you expect a different standard from the chinese


I doubt millions left wuhan to travel the world I do know

430,000 People Have Traveled From China to U.S. Since Coronavirus Surfaced
There were 1,300 direct flights to 17 cities before President Trump’s travel restrictions. Since then, nearly 40,000 Americans and other authorized travelers have made the trip,

You're saying China had no way to stop its residents from boarding international flights, and no way to stop foreigners from entering?

Do you understand how stupid that is? Again, you have to immediately embrace any anti-Trump explanation you can come up with, no matter how absurd it is. There's overwhelming evidence of what China did.

We "didn't" stop it. Not the same as "couldn't". We could have stopped it, but you all would have had exploded heads if Trump immediately banned anyone from coming or going back in December.

Taiwan stopped it, and they were way, way more at risk than we were. They had the will. We didn't even want to allow Trump to restrict travel from China, they all said the virus wasn't that bad.

When Trump wanted to act early on, they said he was overreacting. Now the same exact people, say he didn't do enough. That is a clear cut example of wanting to have it both ways. A common liberal trait.

China had no way to limit travel more than they did. How can you say that with a straight face?

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You're saying China had no way to stop its residents from boarding international flights, and no way to stop foreigners from entering?

Do you understand how stupid that is? Again, you have to immediately embrace any anti-Trump explanation you can come up with, no matter how absurd it is. There's overwhelming evidence of what China did.

We "didn't" stop it. Not the same as "couldn't". We could have stopped it, but you all would have had exploded heads if Trump immediately banned anyone from coming or going back in December.

Taiwan stopped it, and they were way, way more at risk than we were. They had the will. We didn't even want to allow Trump to restrict travel from China, they all said the virus wasn't that bad.

When Trump wanted to act early on, they said he was overreacting. Now the same exact people, say he didn't do enough. That is a clear cut example of wanting to have it both ways. A common liberal trait.

China had no way to limit travel more than they did. How can you say that with a straight face?

So with a straight face are you suggesting China should have detained Americans from returning Home or other foreign nationals from returning.. funny you have great hindsight when it comes to China
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you dont seem to have the same hindsight with Trump's response


lets keep this simple.. do you agree with Navaro yes or no


Navarro: China Deliberately Allowed Coronavirus to Spread Outside Its Borders



saying they could have done more is not the issue. of course they could have done more Same goes for Trump..

But that's not what Navaro said : is it ...


and if yes How so??

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

lets keep this simple.. do you agree with Navaro yes or no

Navarro: China Deliberately Allowed Coronavirus to Spread Outside Its Borders

I agree that not notifying the rest of the world that it had a problem with a novel coronavirus that was transmittable from human to human deliberately left the world vulnerable to the spread of the disease because it left countries who received travelers from china with no heads up to either restrict such travel nor to temporarily quarantine and test for travelers that did arrive from China. By the time the truth became known, it was too late to stop or severely limit the spread.

Yes, China did deliberately allow the virus to spread outside its borders.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

I agree that not notifying the rest of the world that it had a problem with a novel coronavirus that was transmittable from human to human deliberately left the world vulnerable to the spread of the disease because it left countries who received travelers from china with no heads up to either restrict such travel nor to temporarily quarantine and test for travelers that did arrive from China. By the time the truth became known, it was too late to stop or severely limit the spread.

Yes, China did deliberately allow the virus to spread outside its borders.

"Trump's glaringly obvious absence on the global stage colliding with his very public spiral as he loses his grip on the crisis... And his administration appears to be forming a circular firing squad with his trade advisor publicly blaming Trump's CDC director"
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

"Trump's glaringly obvious absence on the global stage colliding with his very public spiral as he loses his grip on the crisis... And his administration appears to be forming a circular firing squad with his trade advisor publicly blaming Trump's CDC director"
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Attaboy, keep firing those mighty blanks.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

So with a straight face are you suggesting China should have detained Americans from returning Home or other foreign nationals from returning.. funny you have great hindsight when it comes to China
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you dont seem to have the same hindsight with Trump's response


lets keep this simple.. do you agree with Navaro yes or no


Navarro: China Deliberately Allowed Coronavirus to Spread Outside Its Borders



saying they could have done more is not the issue. of course they could have done more Same goes for Trump..

But that's not what Navaro said : is it ...


and if yes How so??

I honestly can't follow much of that gibberish. If you want to deny that China was grossly negligent in this, that's fine. The Gallup poll showed that America approves of the way Trump is handling this.

Meanwhile, Gov Cuomo defied all logic and forced nursing homes to admit covid-positive residents, when he knew there were tons of available hospital beds, and lots of people died as a result. This is irrefutable, yet the media won't touch it. DO you have an opinion, by any chance? Is that Trumps fault?

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I honestly can't follow much of that gibberish. If you want to deny that China was grossly negligent in this, that's fine. The Gallup poll showed that America approves of the way Trump is handling this.

Meanwhile, Gov Cuomo defied all logic and forced nursing homes to admit covid-positive residents, when he knew there were tons of available hospital beds, and lots of people died as a result. This is irrefutable, yet the media won't touch it. DO you have an opinion, by any chance? Is that Trumps fault?

Funny how a yes or no answer is gibberish. On the use of the word deliberately...

Yes Fox has been trying to attack Cuomo

But the truth is. From the article. We can’t say for sure” whether the virus has spread because of the patients transferred under the state mandate,
But on fox that part doesn't matter and seems your hindsight only applies to everyone but Trump

seeing my wife works in a nursing home who 3 weeks ago tested all residents and staff had 2 postive and 1 staff postive all on a Covid floor ( if positive or if they went to the hospital, they stayed for 14 day when then returned then to their room if no symptoms)

They just had 32 new positives in 2day this week on a different floor , not in NY in MASS. So fox blaming Coumo isnt a surprise. Or them blaming china or the CDC anyone but Trump I get it ..

Moral of the story is nursing homes have the most vulnerable populations many have DNR,s and are older it's a perfect storm and its spread by Staff , it's a horrible fact , and there is not a thing you can do to stop it.. trust me they are trying to stop it .. wait till the states who have opened up full speed and all those nursing homes in those states allowing families to visit again . It's not going to be pretty,,,,

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Funny how a yes or no answer is gibberish. On the use of the word deliberately...

Yes Fox has been trying to attack Cuomo

But the truth is. From the article. We can’t say for sure” whether the virus has spread because of the patients transferred under the state mandate,
But on fox that part doesn't matter and seems your hindsight only applies to everyone but Trump

seeing my wife works in a nursing home who 3 weeks ago tested all residents and staff had 2 postive and 1 staff postive all on a Covid floor ( if positive or if they went to the hospital, they stayed for 14 day when then returned then to their room if no symptoms)

They just had 32 new positives in 2day this week on a different floor , not in NY in MASS. So fox blaming Coumo isnt a surprise. Or them blaming china or the CDC anyone but Trump I get it ..

Moral of the story is nursing homes have the most vulnerable populations many have DNR,s and are older it's a perfect storm and its spread by Staff , it's a horrible fact , and there is not a thing you can do to stop it.. trust me they are trying to stop it .. wait till the states who have opened up full speed and all those nursing homes in those states allowing families to visit again . It's not going to be pretty,,,,

so you have no problem with forcing nursing home to admit covid-19 patients. at least when prominent democrats give such orders.

my company provides professional liability insurance to nursing homes. many nursing homes will be sued, simply for following that idiotic order. because people died. we, and other carriers, will in some cases be asserting that cuomo did this.

what does your wife’s home have to do with this? is it in NY? no one is saying that every nursing home
death in the country is because of cuomo. what we’re saying is that because nursing homes are so vulnerable, it’s beyond stupid to force them to admit covid 19 residents. a nursing home isnt a hospital.

i am not in the habit of dodging questions. i couldn’t understand your previous email.
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