States

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Unbelievable that conservative states whine about liberal states yet have their hands in the liberal states pockets.

According to estimates by the Rockefeller Institute, from 2015 to 2018 Kentucky — which pays relatively little in federal taxes, because it’s fairly poor, but gets major benefits from programs like Medicare and Social Security — received net transfers from Washington averaging more than $33,000 per person. That was 18.6 percent of the state’s G.D.P.

What's also unbelievable is that liberals never stop saying that the rich should pay their fair share, and spread the wealth around, until libs get cornered on this issue. Then all of a sudden, they act like they support a flat tax.

Our problems in CT do not stem from the federal income tax the wealthy CVT residents pay. Ludicrous to suggest otherwise.

If you want to stop subsidizing poor states, lobby for a flat federal income tax.

CT has Fairfield county, KY does not. I have no problem with a little subsidy on federal programs. You are opposed to helping out the poorest states in the country? Doesn't seem very liberal of you at all.

The wealthiest CT residents, also pay a ton in state taxes. The problem is, it's not nearly enough for the whores in the state legislature or their union masters.

Shouldn't subsidy be based on need, and not on political clout? The state of KY, as a whole, needs help. A CT state trooper making 100k with overtime, doesn't need help. Nor does a married couple who teach and make a combined salary north of 150k a year.

Our speaker of the house, Joe Aresimowicz, works full-time for AFSCME, the largest state employee union. Read that again. As a legislator, he literally votes on how much money goes to his employer. Only in CT is that not a conflict of interest. The results are inevitable. We are crushed with debt to fund insane union perks.

Here in CT, if a married couple teach at UCONN, their household income can EASILY exceed $300,000. And their kids pay zero tuition at UCONN. Why? Why do wealthy people need that perk?

Here in CT, a portion of teacher pensions is exempt from the state income tax. But the first dollar of retirement taken out of a 401k is subject to the state income tax. Why? Why does tax rate depend on former employer, as opposed to taxable income? If a teacher has a $50,000 a year pension, and I take $50,000 out of my 401k, the teacher6 pays less tax. Even though our income is identical. Why?

[Pete F.]

Kentucky gets $45 BILLION more in federal funding than they pay in taxes.

New York pays $21 BILLION more in taxes than they get from the feds.

So effectively every year NY writes a $21B check to KY.

That 21 Billion could cut the NYS pension deficit considerably or completely depending on the return on the rest of their investments.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Kentucky gets $45 BILLION more in federal funding than they pay in taxes.

New York pays $21 BILLION more in taxes than they get from the feds.

So effectively every year NY writes a $21B check to KY.

That 21 Billion could cut the NYS pension deficit considerably or completely depending on the return on the rest of their investments.

No, because there are more than two states in the country. And part of what NY pays for, are federal things like military bases in other states, which benefit everyone in NY. Not all of the excess goes into the pockets of people in other states, but some does.

There are, what, 325 million people in the country. Are you suggesting that each person pay the same, flat fee for federal provisions like the military and highways and food stamps and SS and Medicare? You don't think wealthy people should pay more for those things, than poor people? Wow, that's callous.

If CT got every cent of that back, they'd spent ten times that on the unions. Because our problem isn't a lack of tax revenue, our problem is the corrupt alliance between democrats and the unions.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

That 21 Billion could cut the NYS pension deficit considerably or completely depending on the return on the rest of their investments.

so you want to use federal tax dollars to pay state/local pension shortfalls? What about paying their fair share?....how about accountability for the pension fund dollars that have magically disappeared?? If New York wants to cut the NYS pension deficit it should tax it's rich people more...I don't see what the problem is..why are you picking on Kentucky...they are poor...why do you hate the poor?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

What's also unbelievable is that liberals never stop saying that the rich should pay their fair share, and spread the wealth around, until libs get cornered on this issue. Then all of a sudden, they act like they support a flat tax.

Our problems in CT do not stem from the federal income tax the wealthy CVT residents pay. Ludicrous to suggest otherwise.

If you want to stop subsidizing poor states, lobby for a flat federal income tax.

CT has Fairfield county, KY does not. I have no problem with a little subsidy on federal programs. You are opposed to helping out the poorest states in the country? Doesn't seem very liberal of you at all.

The wealthiest CT residents, also pay a ton in state taxes. The problem is, it's not nearly enough for the whores in the state legislature or their union masters.Next time I see Themis Klarides I'll tell her you think she is a whore. Classy guy.

Shouldn't subsidy be based on need, and not on political clout? The state of KY, as a whole, needs help. A CT state trooper making 100k with overtime, doesn't need help. Nor does a married couple who teach and make a combined salary north of 150k a year.

Our speaker of the house, Joe Aresimowicz, works full-time for AFSCME, the largest state employee union. Read that again. As a legislator, he literally votes on how much money goes to his employer. Only in CT is that not a conflict of interest. The results are inevitable. We are crushed with debt to fund insane union perks.

Here in CT, if a married couple teach at UCONN, their household income can EASILY exceed $300,000. And their kids pay zero tuition at UCONN. Why? Why do wealthy people need that perk?

Here in CT, a portion of teacher pensions is exempt from the state income tax. But the first dollar of retirement taken out of a 401k is subject to the state income tax. Why? Why does tax rate depend on former employer, as opposed to taxable income? If a teacher has a $50,000 a year pension, and I take $50,000 out of my 401k, the teacher6 pays less tax. Even though our income is identical. Why?

Nothing but whining in there. I want my $33K? or at least a Thank you once and a while.

Not Conn. fault KY has a system that can't breed wealth. And not my job to help KY when they and their leaders are so ungrateful. Anytime someone gives me something, I say Thank you.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Nothing but whining in there. I want my $33K? or at least a Thank you once and a while.

Not Conn. fault KY has a system that can't breed wealth. And not my job to help KY when they and their leaders are so ungrateful. Anytime someone gives me something, I say Thank you.

you really need some counseling....

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by scottw

you really need some counseling....

Actually I think you with your constant snarkiness needs to talk to a Dr. I wonder what it does to the people who have to hear it day in and day out.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Actually I think you with your constant snarkiness needs to talk to a Dr. I wonder what it does to the people who have to hear it day in and day out.

you should accept help when people offer it and say thank you

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by scottw

you should accept help when people offer it and say thank you

You should go talk to a Dr. before you do long term damage to the people who have to hear you day in and day out.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Nothing but whining in there. I want my $33K? or at least a Thank you once and a while.

Not Conn. fault KY has a system that can't breed wealth. And not my job to help KY when they and their leaders are so ungrateful. Anytime someone gives me something, I say Thank you.

Themis is a Republican. This may be news to you, Paul, but the democrats have controlled the legislature (which writes budgets) for the overwhelming majority of the last 45 years. Conservatives have never run the show. If there is any conservative footprint in our state's economic landscape, can you point it out for me, please? Because I don't see it.

The democrats promise the unions a blank check, in return for unions providing volunteers and campaign contributions at election time. Is 'whores' that far off? Not to me.

"I want my $33K?" Then advocate for a flat tax. Which puts you in the far right-wing extreme of the GOP.

"And not my job to help KY"

Again, take that up with Blumenthal and Murphy.

It's a separate issue. We give the state a ton of money. More than enough to reasonably run a small state. They chose to overspend by jillions of dollars. That practice will eventually come back to haunt you. Within ten years, we start bouncing pension checks. We've all known that was coming for 40 years. None of us as the right to be surprised by that. When you plant potatoes, you get potatoes. When you take an insane amount of taxes from your citizenry and somehow manage to spend $100 billion more, you will find yourself unable to fund spending at some point. If we don't like that reality, we could have chosen to change our ways at any point in the last 40 years. We chose to double down on liberalism. Oh, well.

Everything I have for retirement is in Roth-type accounts, so the state can't touch it when they decide to massively jack up tax rates in a few years. It won't effect me much. Any idiot could see this coming.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Themis is a Republican. This may be news to you, Paul, but the democrats have controlled the legislature (which writes budgets) for the overwhelming majority of the last 45 years. Conservatives have never run the show. If there is any conservative footprint in our state's economic landscape, can you point it out for me, please? Because I don't see it. So only the Dems. are whores? - Classy guy.

The democrats promise the unions a blank check, in return for unions providing volunteers and campaign contributions at election time. Is 'whores' that far off? Not to me.

"I want my $33K?" Then advocate for a flat tax. Which puts you in the far right-wing extreme of the GOP.

"And not my job to help KY"

Again, take that up with Blumenthal and Murphy.

It's a separate issue. We give the state a ton of money. More than enough to reasonably run a small state. They chose to overspend by jillions of dollars. That practice will eventually come back to haunt you. Within ten years, we start bouncing pension checks. We've all known that was coming for 40 years. None of us as the right to be surprised by that. When you plant potatoes, you get potatoes. When you take an insane amount of taxes from your citizenry and somehow manage to spend $100 billion more, you will find yourself unable to fund spending at some point. If we don't like that reality, we could have chosen to change our ways at any point in the last 40 years. We chose to double down on liberalism. Oh, well.

Everything I have for retirement is in Roth-type accounts, so the state can't touch it when they decide to massively jack up tax rates in a few years. It won't effect me much. Any idiot could see this coming.

Tell Mitch to say Thanks for the $ that comes from Ct. to KY.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Tell Mitch to say Thanks for the $ that comes from Ct. to KY.

You're very angry.

When a middle-of-the-road guy like TDF, who rarely comments here, tells you to calm down...maybe give his advice some consideration.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You're very angry.

When a middle-of-the-road guy like TDF, who rarely comments here, tells you to calm down...maybe give his advice some consideration.

good one. calling people whores. Classy man. Look at your very first post and the anger you exhibit.

He basically doesn't comment and he is not middle of the road.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

good one. calling people whores. Classy man. Look at your very first post and the anger you exhibit.

He basically doesn't comment and he is not middle of the road.

I am convinced that the democrats in the legislature know the damage they are doing. They do it anyway, because their union masters order them to. When the state collapses, they won't care, they will have cashed out.

So if 'whores' is offensive to your delicate sensibilities (again, how about you grow a pair), suggest another term for these crooked parasites like Aresimowicz. Aresimowicz has a second home in SC of all places! SC! If he truly believed one word of the bullsh-t he inflicts upon us, that's the last place in the world he'd want to own a second home. So he knows its advantageous to have low taxes, but he denies that benefit to the people he claims to represent.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

he is not middle of the road.

Because to you, Hilary Clinton is probably your idea of middle of the road.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

He basically doesn't comment and he is not middle of the road.

I’m not?? That’s news to me.

Maybe if the road would stop meandering, I may have a better chance of staying in the center lane.
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