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04-24-2020, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Here's the transcript and the last paragraph is Trump*s contribution to the portfolio of misinformation, quackery and jaw-dropping ignorance he has shared with the American people during the coronavirus pandemic.
Donald Trump: (29:46)
A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you’re going to test that too. Sounds interesting, right? And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful. Steve, please.
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So it will be spun in about a week or is that he didn't recommend it but said to test different theories bc he said
"I think you said you’re going to test that too. Sounds interesting, right?" and "so it’d be interesting to check that so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me".
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04-24-2020, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
So it will be spun in about a week or is that he didn't recommend it but said to test different theories bc he said
"I think you said you’re going to test that too. Sounds interesting, right?" and "so it’d be interesting to check that so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me".
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Yes, that is what he actually said. Spin not necessary.
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04-24-2020, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
So it will be spun in about a week or is that he didn't recommend it but said to test different theories bc he said
"I think you said you’re going to test that too. Sounds interesting, right?" and "so it’d be interesting to check that so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me".
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Here's what he said, right?
"And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with"
He is wondering if there's a way. Not '"go out and inhale Lysol because I said so", but asking if there's a way for docs to do it safely if it could help.
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04-24-2020, 12:47 PM
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Here's what he said, right?
"And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with"
He is wondering if there's a way. Not '"go out and inhale Lysol because I said so", but asking if there's a way for docs to do it safely if it could help.
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Spin away. TDS
He normally is so eloquent.
You did exactly what was claimed the Trump defenders would do regardless of what he actually meant.
Why is he now saying he was being sarcastic. If he didn't think it was a good idea or a potential cure he wouldn't have needed to walk it back.
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04-24-2020, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
Spin away. TDS
He normally is so eloquent.
You did exactly what was claimed the Trump defenders would do regardless of what he actually meant.
Why is he now saying he was being sarcastic. If he didn't think it was a good idea or a potential cure he wouldn't have needed to walk it back.
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"He normally is so eloquent."
I certainly never said anything that stupid.
"You did exactly what was claimed the Trump defenders would do "
And you did exactly what I'd expect an irrational Trump hater to do.
"regardless of what he actually meant."
Paul, kindly tell us what you think he was trying to convey, when he used the words "is there a way". Do you understand the difference between saying "there is a way", and saying "is there a way"? One is a declaration, one is a question. A question aimed at a doctor.
Christ you've lost it, welcome to Petesville.
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04-24-2020, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Paul, kindly tell us what you think he was trying to convey, when he used the words "is there a way". Do you understand the difference between saying "there is a way", and saying "is there a way"? One is a declaration, one is a question. A question aimed at a doctor.
Christ you've lost it, welcome to Petesville.
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You are the one who has lost it trying to defend what he said. You're trying to parse words. It is another example of how stupid he is. No, one would with an ounce of common sense would have said it the way he did and no one would have ever made that statement with a national (world wide?) audience. At the least, they would have pulled a Dr. aside bf the presser to ask them any question. But bc he doesn't read the notes, ask questions or be prepared, you end up with these stupid things said.
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04-24-2020, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
You are the one who has lost it trying to defend what he said. You're trying to parse words. It is another example of how stupid he is. No, one would with an ounce of common sense would have said it the way he did and no one would have ever made that statement with a national (world wide?) audience. At the least, they would have pulled a Dr. aside bf the presser to ask them any question. But bc he doesn't read the notes, ask questions or be prepared, you end up with these stupid things said.
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Why are you too chicken to answer my question? Why did he use the phrase "is there a way..."? What do you really, truly think he meant?
You're correct he is an awful speaker. Let us guess...if Biden wins, then PRESTO! Being a good speaker will no longer be important to you.
Trump should OBVIOUSLY let the experts speak to their expertise, and he should stick to summarizing results and policy. It's totally fair to criticize him for the idiotic and bratty way he inserts himself into these briefings. It's totally unfair, to say he was suggesting we should inject disinfectants. He was asking if there might be a way we could use it safely, and he was clearly asking a doctor. He wasn't making any suggestions that anyone do it. But you guys are physically incapable of resisting the impulse to act as if he said something not even close to what he actually said.
If there's a product, any product, which kills this virus on contact, why the hell wouldn't you ask a doctor if it's in any way possible to use that safely to help people who are dying? Why the hell wouldn't you ask if it's possible?
Asking if it could be possible, isn't anywhere near the same, as saying it works.
Try. Making. That. Wrong.
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04-24-2020, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Why are you too chicken Who is chicken - why do you constantly resort to angry insults?to answer my question? Why did he use the phrase "is there a way..."? What do you really, truly think he meant?I think he truly meant what everyone thought he said. That is why Lysol had to come out with a statement telling people what not to do and why he had to try to walk it back by lying and saying it was sarcastic.
You're correct he is an awful speaker. Let us guess...if Biden wins, then PRESTO! Being a good speaker will no longer be important to you.You mean after the hypocrisy demonstrated here trying to justify what Trump said?
Trump should OBVIOUSLY let the experts speak to their expertise, and he should stick to summarizing results and policy. It's totally fair to criticize him for the idiotic and bratty way he inserts himself into these briefings. It's totally unfair, to say he was suggesting we should inject disinfectants. He was asking if there might be a way we could use it safely, and he was clearly asking a doctor. He wasn't making any suggestions that anyone do it. But you guys are physically incapable of resisting the impulse to act as if he said something not even close to what he actually said.
If there's a product, any product, which kills this virus on contact, why the hell wouldn't you ask a doctor if it's in any way possible to use that safely to help people who are dying? Why the hell wouldn't you ask if it's possible?
Asking if it could be possible, isn't anywhere near the same, as saying it works.
Try. Making. That. Wrong.
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The other guy said
"We’ve tested bleach, we’ve tested isopropyl alcohol on the virus specifically in saliva or in respiratory fluids and I can tell you that bleach will kill the virus in five minutes. Isopropyl alcohol will kill the virus in 30 seconds and that’s with no manipulation, no rubbing. Just bring it on and leaving it go. You rub it and it goes away even faster"
And the Trump says "....And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside (vs what injection outside?)or almost a cleaning because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me"
So do you think any adult would ask after the subject is bleach and alcohol if there is a way to do "injection inside"? No, one would with an ounce of common sense would have said it the way he did and no one would have ever made that statement with a national (world wide?) audience. And you keep trying to spin it away.
TRY. MAKING. THAT. WRONG. (see I used capitals!)
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04-24-2020, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
So it will be spun in about a week or is that he didn't recommend it but said to test different theories bc he said
"I think you said you’re going to test that too. Sounds interesting, right?" and "so it’d be interesting to check that so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me".
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Where did he recommend it? Where? You conveniently left out where he asked "is there a way". What do you think he meant by that?
God almighty man, take of the TDF tinfoil hat.
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04-24-2020, 12:14 PM
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I was going to put this on the main forum, under the thread looking for good jokes, but this gem I saw on facebook belongs here.
A British doctor says "In Britain, medicine is so advance that we cut off a man's liver, put it in another man and in 6 weeks, he is looking for a job.
A German doctor says "That's nothing, in Germany we took part of a brain, put it in another man and in 4 weeks he is looking for a job.
The Russian doctor says "Gentlemen, we took half a heart from a man, put in in another mans chest and in 2 weeks he is looking for a job.
The American doctor laughs and says "You are all behind us. A few years ago, we took a man with no brains, no heart and no liver and made him President. Now the whole country is looking for a job".
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04-24-2020, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
God almighty man, take of the TDF tinfoil hat.
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Where can I get one of those?
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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04-24-2020, 12:30 PM
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Where can I get one of those?
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That was pretty quick. Meant to say TDS obviously!
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04-24-2020, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Where did he recommend it? Where? You conveniently left out where he asked "is there a way"It was in the original transcript which I quoted. What do you think he meant by that? Don't know other than I think he is an idiot. He probably thought there is a potential chance we can all inject some version of Lysol into us. "What do you have to lose?"
God almighty man, take of the TDF tinfoil hat.
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You're the one with the TDS trying to spin his original stupid statement.
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04-24-2020, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
You're the one with the TDS trying to spin his original stupid statement.
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Not "spin". I'm pointing out what he actually, literally, said. How can that be spin?
"Is there a way..."
He's asking a question, not stating a conclusion. What do you think he meant by using the phrase "is there a way". He also stated that these chemicals "do a number on the lungs", so he stated it's not currently safe.
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04-24-2020, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Not "spin". I'm pointing out what he actually, literally, said. How can that be spin?
"Is there a way..."
He's asking a question, not stating a conclusion. What do you think he meant by using the phrase "is there a way". He also stated that these chemicals "do a number on the lungs", so he stated it's not currently safe.
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Some (stupid) people are out there just to give the President his “gotcha.” No surprise to see who (stupid personified)is pushing it the hardest. At least he is educated.🤡
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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04-24-2020, 01:31 PM
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Some (stupid) people are out there just to give the President his “gotcha.” No surprise to see who (stupid personified)is pushing it the hardest. At least he is educated.
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its incredible.
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04-24-2020, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Some (stupid) people are out there just to give the President his “gotcha.” No surprise to see who (stupid personified)is pushing it the hardest. At least he is educated.
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And some (stupid) people are trying to defend the President no matter what he does. Anyone with a HS degree (well most people bc we really do have some stupid people here who demonstrate their stupidity and pettiness) would recognize what he was asking.
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