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02-20-2020, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
No trick, the only reason it ended up there is because of obstruction of the investigation of the conspiracy.
It wouldn't have worked in Part I. In that part, he said there was not sufficient evidence to indict.
Firing FBI Director James Comey: Trump repeatedly pressured Comey to tell the public Trump wasn’t under investigation
He was told by Comey and others that he wasn't under investigation. What was illegal, immoral, or a lie, to ask that Comey publicly say that? (Of course, you have to characterize it as being "pressured.")
and to go easy on Michael Flynn.
There was good reason to go easy on Flynn. The FBI initially did not think he lied. His meeting with Russians was not illegal, actually was part of his responsibility in the incoming administration. He wasn't told in his interrogation that he was under investigation and that he should have a lawyer present. We may even be discovering that Flynn was the real target in the phony investigation.
When Comey wouldn’t, Trump fired him—then bragged on national television and to Russian officials that he’d done it to stop the Russia investigation.
It was not illegal to fire Comey. The assistant AG recommended it.
Dangling pardons: Trump has publicly alluded to the possibility of pardoning campaign officials indicted of collusion-related crimes, and his lawyers reportedly suggested it to theirs behind closed doors. That wouldn’t just be obstruction of justice—it would also be furthering the initial conspiracy to collude with Russia.
Tampering with witnesses: Key witnesses—and even indicted campaign officials like campaign chairman Paul Manafort—were reportedly in contact with the White House before and after they testified to Special Counsel Robert Mueller or Congress. Trump has also praised witnesses like Roger Stone who refused to testify against Trump and called Cohen a “rat” for cooperating with investigators.
Forcing out Attorney General Jeff Sessions: Trump’s only criticism of Sessions was that he had recused himself from overseeing Mueller’s investigation rather than run interference for Trump. When Sessions finally stepped down, Trump went outside the Justice Department’s explicit chain of command to illegally appoint an acting attorney general who’d openly attacked Mueller and even outlined how Trump could sideline the special counsel.
Trying to fire Mueller and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein: Along with his running commentary bashing Mueller’s investigation, Trump has reportedly tried to fire Mueller at least twice. He also reportedly considered forcing out Rosenstein, who has overseen the investigation since Sessions’s recusal in early 2017.
Directing the coverup of the June 9 meeting: When The New York Times first reported that Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Manafort met with suspected Russian operatives in Trump Tower, the president personally dictated his son’s misleading response. That response just so happened to dismiss the June 9 meeting as having been about adoptions—a topic Trump said he had recently discussed with Russian President Vladimir Putin at G20.
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That's all a whole lot of noise that led to nothing except dangling bits of suppositions, assumptions, conspiracy theories, and little pieces of moldy meat for you to incessantly rant and drip on and on and on . . .
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02-20-2020, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
That's all a whole lot of noise that led to nothing except dangling bits of suppositions, assumptions, conspiracy theories, and little pieces of moldy meat for you to incessantly rant and drip on and on and on . . .
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Donald Trump’s: Campaign chair: felon Deputy campaign chair: felon Foreign policy adviser: felon Personal lawyer: felon National security adviser: felon Longtime political adviser: felon
Nothing says “I hate political corruption” quite like commuting the sentence of a corrupt Governor of Illinois who went to prison for withholding money from a children’s hospital until they paid him a $50,000 bribe.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
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02-20-2020, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Donald Trump’s: Campaign chair: felon Deputy campaign chair: felon Foreign policy adviser: felon Personal lawyer: felon National security adviser: felon Longtime political adviser: felon
Nothing says “I hate political corruption” quite like commuting the sentence of a corrupt Governor of Illinois who went to prison for withholding money from a children’s hospital until they paid him a $50,000 bribe.
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Donald Trump: President: not a felon. Not convicted. Not conspiracist. Not convicted for obstruction. Yada, yada, yada . . .
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02-20-2020, 06:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by detbuch
Donald Trump: President: not a felon. Not convicted. Not conspiracist. Not convicted for obstruction. Yada, yada, yada . . .
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Not doing sh*t to protect our elections from foreign intervention and when intelligence brings him intel advising him, that a Russia is at it again to help Trump, what does he do? Out with the old, in with a loyalist with zero intelligence experience, are you clowns just ok with foreign interference because you just hate Democrats? A sixth Trump aid sentenced today, it’s just corruption from the top down and Trump and Barr are two very dangerous individuals. Lucky for Americans worse case is one more term and then those that helped and abated him will have to pay the bill.
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02-20-2020, 06:36 PM
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the snowflakes are increasingly unhinged.... 
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02-20-2020, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
the snowflakes are increasingly unhinged.... 
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You constantly say nobody cares yet you repeatedly come back here and say nothing other than throw out little insults. you're getting likes SD.
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02-20-2020, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
You constantly say nobody cares
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nobody cares what pete thinks...I think you even said you don't care what pete thinks
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02-21-2020, 07:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by detbuch
Donald Trump: President: not a felon. Not convicted. Not conspiracist. Not convicted for obstruction. Yada, yada, yada . . .
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Impeached
Corrupt
Putin’s Puppet
Once again enabling Russian interference in our elections
Selling pardons
Bush 43 in his final weeks in office pardoned a developer convicted of mail fraud. When it came out that the developer’s father had contributed $30,000 to the GOP, Bush was so upset that it would look like a favor for a donor that he took the pardon back.
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Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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02-21-2020, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Impeached
Corrupt
Putin’s Puppet
Once again enabling Russian interference in our elections
Selling pardons
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Same old yada, yada, yada
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02-21-2020, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Same old yada, yada, yada
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And he is still The Same Old Corrupt Conman
Bush 43 in his final weeks in office pardoned a developer convicted of mail fraud. When it came out that the developer’s father had contributed $30,000 to the GOP, Bush was so upset that it would look like a favor for a donor that he took the pardon back.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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02-21-2020, 08:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
And he is still The Same Old Corrupt Conman
Bush 43 in his final weeks in office pardoned a developer convicted of mail fraud. When it came out that the developer’s father had contributed $30,000 to the GOP, Bush was so upset that it would look like a favor for a donor that he took the pardon back.
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RePete
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