Drip.....Drip.....Drip...the Russians are coming

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Really looking forward to a Trump/Sanders general election which is decided by who gets the coveted Vladimir Putin endorsement!!
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so trump can’t beat Bernie without Russia’s help? Yeah, you have your finger on the pulse.
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[Got Stripers]

Thought this was a perfect example of which column Trump checks off almost every box and it's not on the left (no pun intended). Not sure who posted it on facebook, but on seeing it this morning, boy doesn't that column on the right describe Trump to a tee. Since this thread turned to perceived Trump success, I thought it fitting.

[Jim in CT]

“perceived” trump success. It’s only perception that my take home pay went up, it’s only perception that our 401ks are through the roof and part of that is because of his pro growth policies, and it’s perception that he’s appointing judges who will be guided by the constitution rather than by personal activism. no reality, all perception.
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[Got Stripers]

As always your metric for success is tied to the market and your precious 401K, everyone has a different view of whether this conman is an American success story, yours is yours, that however doesn't make it mine.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

As always your metric for success is tied to the market and your precious 401K, everyone has a different view of whether this conman is an American success story, yours is yours, that however doesn't make it mine.

i mentioned judges as well, probably the single most important thing a president does. our national security is also in good shape.

you’re all desperate to ignore the economy, because you can’t handle the job economic success ushered by a guy you despise. but regular people aren’t going to pretend the economy isn’t doing well.
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[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i mentioned judges as well, probably the single most important thing a president does. our national security is also in good shape.

you’re all desperate to ignore the economy, because you can’t handle the job economic success ushered by a guy you despise. but regular people aren’t going to pretend the economy isn’t doing well.
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Our national security is at great risk when people doing their job to report intelligence critical to our national security, are fired because Trump doesn’t like the intel they have shared. Shoot the messenger and put a raving Trump loyalist with zero ability to run the most important agency protecting our national security, sure you understand our national security isn’t just tied to some campaign promise wall?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Our national security is at great risk when people doing their job to report intelligence critical to our national security, are fired because Trump doesn’t like the intel they have shared. Shoot the messenger and put a raving Trump loyalist with zero ability to run the most important agency protecting our national security, sure you understand our national security isn’t just tied to some campaign promise wall?

yes...as you've been saying for three years...everything should collapse at any minute now

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Our national security is at great risk when people doing their job to report intelligence critical to our national security, are fired because Trump doesn’t like the intel they have shared. Shoot the messenger and put a raving Trump loyalist with zero ability to run the most important agency protecting our national security, sure you understand our national security isn’t just tied to some campaign promise wall?

our national security is a lot
more than a wall. it’s also a lot more than what i admit is a disturbing revolving door of those reporting directly to trump. our national security is a lot
more than senior level political appointees. it’s mostly determined by dedicated heroes far removed from trump, whose boots are on the ground. thank goodness. most people working for our security, are dedicated to their jobs regardless of their feelings for the president.

If there’s actual national security failures, i’ll be the very first to blame trump. However, i’m not going to blame him for speculative failures that haven’t happened. I’ll judge him by what has actually happened. Results, not style.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

“perceived” trump success. It’s only perception that my take home pay went up, it’s only perception that our 401ks are through the roof and part of that is because of his pro growth policies, and it’s perception that he’s appointing judges who will be guided by the constitution rather than by personal activism. no reality, all perception.
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Jim, is it also your perception that quality public servants are being cleaned out and replaced by inexperienced sycophants to not question the President’s bidding?

Is it your perception that decorated veterans are being punished and shamed for upholding their oaths to the constitution, something you know a bit about.

Is it your perception that Trump is once again trying to gaslight the entire country about Russian election meddling contrary to our entire national security organizations and congressional duty to receive such information.

Is it?

You’re worried about your 401k, I’m worried about our Country.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Jim, is it also your perception that quality public servants are being cleaned out and replaced by inexperienced sycophants to not question the President’s bidding?

Is it your perception that decorated veterans are being punished and shamed for upholding their oaths to the constitution, something you know a bit about.

Is it your perception that Trump is once again trying to gaslight the entire country about Russian election meddling contrary to our entire national security organizations and congressional duty to receive such information.

Is it?

You’re worried about your 401k, I’m worried about our Country.
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i concede that some good people have left because of trump, and that he says stupid and outlandish things. i am willing to tolerate that if it means national security is in good shape and that i can retire a year earlier because of what my ira is doing, and if he’s appointing judges who aren’t political activists. i don’t look to him to be any kind of role model for personal ethos. the side benefit is watching democrats willingly humiliate themselves every single day, but that’s just the cherry on top.

i want my mechanic to be able to fix
my car. i don’t especially care if he cheats on his wife or if he says loathsome things. when my wife is driving my kids around, i only care that the car is safe and reliable.

Similarly i want my potus to grow the economy, to kill terrorists, to look out for the unborn, and to appoint judges who abide by the constitution.

i’m results oriented. not style oriented. i hate his style, but care more about his results. you deny the results and obsess over style.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by spence

Jim, is it also your perception that quality public servants are being cleaned out and replaced by inexperienced sycophants to not question the President’s bidding?

Is it your perception that decorated veterans are being punished and shamed for upholding their oaths to the constitution, something you know a bit about.

Is it your perception that Trump is once again trying to gaslight the entire country about Russian election meddling contrary to our entire national security organizations and congressional duty to receive such information.

Is it?

You’re worried about your 401k, I’m worried about our Country.
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It's all Transactional with Trump supporters it's a quid pro quo my 401k is doing well , and judges ( whom they think wont follow the law but be ttheir activist judges ) and for that, they will ignore everything else ..

So when things go south and historical they do. What will be their reason of support

Integrity, honesty, his love of God, family values, his compassion , none of theses will be the reason , it will be victimhood and oh how the deepstate plotted against him bla bla bla .

Today they have no issues with Nunes telling Trump hes
Intel director doesn't have his back , or Trump firing his appointee for telling congress the Russians are at it again .. because it looks bad for him and puts a puppet in is place .. looks a lot like how other country's operate , but his supporters again have no issues it's just getting rid of Obama hold overs ...

America 1st my ass

[Sea Dangles]

He is clearly the greatest president of our lifetime
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[scottw]

moderate democrats will be voting for TRUMP in November...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

moderate democrats will be voting for TRUMP in November...

the black ones just might. if he gets 15% of the black vote, he can’t lose. i can not wait to see that number.
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[Jim in CT]

wdmso, i jeep sating i don’t like how he handles people, you keep saying i don’t care. i do care, but i care more about results.

“when things go south”.

when is that going to happen? do you know? what indicators do you see that suggest things are heading south because of trump? if that happens, i’ll be the first to hold him accountable. i can’t predict the future like you can.

you’re blaming him for things that haven’t happened.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you’re blaming him for things that haven’t happened.

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does this surprise you?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

does this surprise you?

how could it? everything is his fault, starting with the Chicago fire and going at least through the next few recessions. regardless of when they occur or what triggers them.

oh, and Trump is FINALLY talking about meaningful spending cuts to address his stupid deficits. He’s trying to actually do things.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

how could it? everything is his fault, starting with the Chicago fire and going at least through the next few recessions. regardless of when they occur or what triggers them.

oh, and Trump is FINALLY talking about meaningful spending cuts to address his stupid deficits. He’s trying to actually do things.
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That's hilarious

[spence]

Ok Jim, so denigrating and mocking veterans up holding the Constitution is just style point to you. Kind of like our troops in Iraq recently that had a few headaches. Style points. Enjoy your money.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Ok Jim, so denigrating and mocking veterans up holding the Constitution is just style point to you. Kind of like our troops in Iraq recently that had a few headaches. Style points. Enjoy your money.
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i hates what he said about mccain. but if you want me to believe that hilary has more respect for vets than he does, i don’t buy it.

spence, you can’t say anything complimentary about him. we get it.
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