Romney voting to convict

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Maybe he should ask Putin what to do next

Considering how well our country has been doing since Trump colluded with Putin, maybe he should.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Considering how well our country has been doing since Trump colluded with Putin, maybe he should.

Next you'll get one of those "I'd rather be Russian than a Democrat shirts" and claim that Liberalism and Democracy are obsolete.

You should wonder why Floridaman never goes against Putin.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Next you'll get one of those "I'd rather be Russian than a Democrat shirts" and claim that Liberalism and Democracy are obsolete.

You should wonder why Floridaman never goes against Putin.

No, as usual you're wrong. I won't get such a shirt. I didn't get a "I'd rather be red than dead" shirt either. And I certainly don't claim that liberalism is obsolete. I am liberal. Most of my friends and family are liberal.

As for Democracy, it's a very nice word. All manner of dictatorial governments also think it a very nice, useful, word. They are proud to announce the results of their elections.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

No, as usual you're wrong. I won't get such a shirt. I didn't get a "I'd rather be red than dead" shirt either. And I certainly don't claim that liberalism is obsolete. I am liberal. Most of my friends and family are liberal.

As for Democracy, it's a very nice word. All manner of dictatorial governments, also think it a very nice, useful word. The are proud to announce the results of their elections.

You should wonder why Floridaman never goes against Putin.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

You should wonder why Floridaman never goes against Putin.

You should wonder why you keep repeating the lie that Trump said Nazis are fine people.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by detbuch

You should wonder why you keep repeating the lie that Trump said Nazis are fine people.

"Unite the Right was explicitly organized and branded as a far-right, racist, and white supremacist event by far-right racist white supremacists. This was clear for months before the march actually occurred. So by casting the rally instead as a sort of spontaneous outpouring from Confederate statue enthusiasts, Trump is rewriting history."

It is clear he was trying to equate the "alt left" (his words) with the alt right. He kept trying to blame the alt left bc they didn't have a permit.

So Pete was not lying no matter who much you and Brietbart try to make it about the lee monument. The march was about the scummy white nationalists.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by PaulS

"Unite the Right was explicitly organized and branded as a far-right, racist, and white supremacist event by far-right racist white supremacists. This was clear for months before the march actually occurred. So by casting the rally instead as a sort of spontaneous outpouring from Confederate statue enthusiasts, Trump is rewriting history."

It is clear he was trying to equate the "alt left" (his words) with the alt right. He kept trying to blame the alt left bc they didn't have a permit.

So Pete was not lying no matter who much you and Brietbart try to make it about the lee monument. The march was about the scummy white nationalists.

The problem with your "interpretation" of what Trump said, is that, in the very same speech he specifically said that he was not referring to the Nazis when he said that there were fine people on both sides. I realize that it is necessary for Trump haters, or Trump dis-likers, or Never Trumpers, to always interpret his words or actions to mean something vile or treasonous, or illegal. But if you can't actually point out where he actually said "Nazis are fine people," then you got nothing, especially when he said that is not who he was referring to.

Let me ask you this. If you claim that when he said there were fine people on both sides that he was referring to Nazis, are you saying that he was talking about both sides of the Nazis? That's gibberish. Are you saying that he was referring to the Nazis and Antifa, that they were both fine people? If so (even though that doesn't make sense) then, at least, put it that way. Actually, he has said unequivocally (doesn't need interpretation) that he disavows both of those sides.