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01-29-2020, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Good joke, funny stuff, Ukraine didn’t want to and luckily wasn’t forced to announce the investigation in order to get their aid and meeting, because Trump and his BS bribery plot got outed by the whistle blower. Just because it didn’t work and he was forced to release the aid, doesn’t absolve him of abusing his power and then obstruction of congress.
Go drink some more cool aid, your getting low on facts and an argument that holds water.
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I stated facts. You speculate. Impeachment should be based on fact, not speculation.
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01-29-2020, 08:34 AM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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The fact is and almost every criminal prosecutor would agree, because the criminal effort was foiled before it was successfully completed, doesn’t mean no crime was committed. Keep spinning, you must be getting dizzy by now 
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01-29-2020, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
The fact is and almost every criminal prosecutor would agree, because the criminal effort was foiled before it was successfully completed, doesn’t mean no crime was committed. Keep spinning, you must be getting dizzy by now 
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"Almost every criminal lawyer would agree" that there must be proof or actual evidence of criminal effort, not mere speculation, before it can be surmised that any crime was committed.
The facts are that the money was given on time and the receiver claimed there was no coercion or bribery.
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01-29-2020, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
"Almost every criminal lawyer would agree" that there must be proof or actual evidence of criminal effort, not mere speculation, before it can be surmised that any crime was committed.
The facts are that the money was given on time and the receiver claimed there was no coercion or bribery.
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I guess you took me literally and kept spinning, haha.
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01-29-2020, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
I guess you took me literally and kept spinning, haha.
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Facts are literal statements. They are not spin. I stated fact. Apparently, since you weren't speaking literally, you weren't stating facts. You were spinning.
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01-29-2020, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Facts are literal statements. They are not spin. I stated fact. Apparently, since you weren't speaking literally, you weren't stating facts. You were spinning.
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No sir you don't state a fact when you say there is no evidence of a crime, I guess you haven't really been paying attention as you mind is already made up......party first.
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01-29-2020, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
No sir you don't state a fact when you say there is no evidence of a crime, I guess you haven't really been paying attention as you mind is already made up......party first.
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What evidence is there that he bribed Ukraine? Is your evidence something along the lines of (taking off on your previous bank robber analogy) he wanted to rob a bank but didn't, so he is guilty of robbery?
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01-29-2020, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
I stated facts. You speculate. Impeachment should be based on fact, not speculation.
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Paul pointed out recently that he'd lapped up and digested every bit of evidence and testimony that schiff chose to cherry pick and offer to fit the narrative and then completely ignored what the trump team offered in response and then declared himself fully informed and of great judgment and probably a better person with an open mind for having done so....so...that's kind of where we're at
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01-29-2020, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
Paul pointed out recently that he'd lapped up and digested every bit of evidence and testimony that schiff chose to cherry pick and offer to fit the narrative and then completely ignored what the trump team offered in response and then declared himself fully informed and of great judgment and probably a better person with an open mind for having done so....so...that's kind of where we're at
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Pls. point that out to me where I said anything about the Trump team otherwise be a good snarky little boy and say you're sorry.
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