identity politics bites democrats

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Trumps the king of identity politics, it the fuel that drives everything he does

i’m pretty sure you have no idea what “identity politics” means. Trump is incredibly vulgar and insulting, but he’s not obsessed with reducing people to their gender, skin color, sexual orientation, blah blah blah. You guys do that incessantly, not my side. Here is a rare case where is absolutely bit the democrats in the ass. And it was beyond glorious, and obviously helps trump.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i’m pretty sure you have no idea what “identity politics” means. Trump is incredibly vulgar and insulting, but he’s not obsessed with reducing people to their gender, skin color, sexual orientation, blah blah blah. You guys do that incessantly, not my side. Here is a rare case where is absolutely bit the democrats in the ass. And it was beyond glorious, and obviously helps trump.
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I'm sure you have no clue about what you speak.

You honestly believe the Trumplican Party is reflective of the composition of this country by any measure or that it has the desire to be?

It consists of:
8% of black voters
20% of hispanic voters
12% of asian voters

Trumpworld is the home of white identity politics and Floridaman plays the chords very well.

Trumplicans feel, to some extent, that the rug is being pulled out from under them — that the benefits they have enjoyed because of their race, their groups’ advantages, and their status atop the racial hierarchy are all in jeopardy.
That more attention needs to be given to the dire circumstances of working white men and women, Trump’s election was a white, working-class, often rural backlash and what is needed is a focus on Middle America.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

I'm sure you have no clue about what you speak.

You honestly believe the Trumplican Party is reflective of the composition of this country by any measure or that it has the desire to be?

It consists of:
8% of black voters
20% of hispanic voters
12% of asian voters

Trumpworld is the home of white identity politics and Floridaman plays the chords very well.

Trumplicans feel, to some extent, that the rug is being pulled out from under them — that the benefits they have enjoyed because of their race, their groups’ advantages, and their status atop the racial hierarchy are all in jeopardy.
That more attention needs to be given to the dire circumstances of working white men and women, Trump’s election was a white, working-class, often rural backlash and what is needed is a focus on Middle America.

"Identity politics" is the political tactic of obsessing with gender, skin color, sexual orientation. It's a pillar of liberalism, it's not on the radar screen of most conservatives. We tend to not care. If you disagree with that, that's your right. It's hysterical, but it's your right.

"You honestly believe the Trumplican Party is reflective of the composition of this country "

That's has nothing to do with identity politics. But the answer to your question, of course, is no. The GOP does very poorly with minorities.

You would say that's because the GOP is racist. I would say it's because the entire media and all of academia never stops painting the GOP as racist, even though there's zero truth to that. Zip.

Paul, a liberal walks through Baltimore or Bridgeport, and says that the blacks there need more liberalism. A conservative sees these cities, sees that they've been run by liberals for 100 years, and concludes that blacks in those cities need something different and better. Liberals push abortion and minimum wage, which obviously disproportionately impact blacks. Conservatives wish to address black fatherlessness, liberals blame it all on white supremacy.

Just because it works, doesn't mean it's true.

"Trumplicans feel, to some extent, that the rug is being pulled out from under them — that the benefits they have enjoyed because of their race, their groups’ advantages, and their status atop the racial hierarchy are all in jeopardy."

So liberals never claim that working class-folks are being left behind as the wealthy get ahead? How come it's heroic and empathetic when liberals say the little guy is falling behind, but it's racist when Trumplicans say it?

Paul, all you have is name-calling like Floridaman and Trumplicans. When you're (1) wrong on the facts, and (2) too small to admit so, you can always accuse your opponents of bigotry.

You're pathetic and desperate, as are the candidates and the DNC.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Paul, all you have is name-calling like Floridaman and Trumplicans. When you're (1) wrong on the facts, and (2) too small to admit so, you can always accuse your opponents of bigotry.

You're pathetic and desperate, as are the candidates and the DNC.

You're an idiot and get so angry you don't even know who you are talking to.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

You're an idiot and get so angry you don't even know who you are talking to.

When all you can do is criticize my typos, I'm feeling good about the validity of my opinions.

I'm an idiot. You live in CT, you see the results of liberal economics, and yet you're a liberal. How bad do things have to get in your home state, before you can say "liberalism sounded great, but it obviously just doesn't work"? How much worse would it have to get?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

When all you can do is criticize my typos, I'm feeling good about the validity of my opinions.

I'm an idiot. You live in CT, you see the results of liberal economics, and yet you're a liberal. How bad do things have to get in your home state, before you can say "liberalism sounded great, but it obviously just doesn't work"? How much worse would it have to get?

Idiot - where have I criticized your typos? I'm not as petty as SD or Scott to point out typos.

I like it here and wouldn't move to the majority of conservative states. Many stats rank CT (and other liberal states) much higher than conservative states but if $ is the only thing that matters to you so be it.

The Repubs. put up horrible candidates (Hyde, the last guy who ran for Gov with no platform other than he would get rid of the income tax w/o telling us how he would make up revenue, etc).

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Idiot - where have I criticized your typos? I'm not as petty as SD or Scott to point out typos.

I like it here and wouldn't move to the majority of conservative states. Many stats rank CT (and other liberal states) much higher than conservative states but if $ is the only thing that matters to you so be it.

The Repubs. put up horrible candidates (Hyde, the last guy who ran for Gov with no platform other than he would get rid of the income tax w/o telling us how he would make up revenue, etc).

"where have I criticized your typos? "

That I didn't know who I was talking to, that was a typo...

"if $ is the only thing that matters to you so be it. "

Nice dodge. I asked if liberalism has worked in CT.

Stefanowski was a good candidate. It's just a blu state, a challenge even for good candidates. They're not all like Hyde, Paul. The speaker pf the house in CT is a democrat named Joe Aresimowicz. Know what his full time job is? He works full-time for AFSCME, the largest state employee labor union. He's not in the union, he is the union. And he votes on budgets. No conflict of interest there! Shocker that our debt is $40,000 per person.

CT has many nice features. But it's stupidly expensive, and about to get a lot more so. But nice dodge.