Iran

[JohnR]

Not a fan of Trump.

He did say for Iran to get their people away from our Embassy.

Iran has been fueling the fires of the region, from AFG to Yemen, to Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and Israel. Soleimani was the mastermind running all those board games. He is responsible for the death and maiming of a thousand Americans and probably over 100 thousand others. If you know an American Military member that lost a limb or suffered TBI in Iraq - Soleimani had a significant hand in that.

Going to be a rocky road ahead

[wdmso]

death and maiming the US has done its share

But how many Americans ever heard of this General and theses these atrocities
How many Americans are asking if he was so evil why now ?

how many Americans are saying Now Trump believes his intelligence community he was planning attacks against diplomats,

2019 Trump administration labels them a terrorists group.. is this the new way around targeted killings well call them or anyone a terrorist , and we are good to go

Trumps rolling the dice on this one , with the markets , American lives which in my view he has now put at greater risk than they were yesterday, totally told Iraq to f off by ignoring their sovereignty ,, Iraqis can see this clearly

I appreciate President @realDonaldTrump's bold action against Iranian aggression. To the Iranian government: if you want more, you will get more," Graham tweeted.

Just another example of Republicans willingness to concede their responsibility and enable Trumps vision of executive power

Sadly there is no upside if it dosen't escalate Trumps will see his choice as validation to his genius and he will broaden these actions , if it does escalate Trump and his supporters will blame Iran

What would Americans think if Iran called the joint chief of staff a terrorist and they killed him and others in their motorcade in a 3 rd country they were visiting?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

death and maiming the US has done its share

But how many Americans ever heard of this General and theses these atrocities
How many Americans are asking if he was so evil why now ?

how many Americans are saying Now Trump believes his intelligence community he was planning attacks against diplomats,

2019 Trump administration labels them a terrorists group.. is this the new way around targeted killings well call them or anyone a terrorist , and we are good to go

Trumps rolling the dice on this one , with the markets , American lives which in my view he has now put at greater risk than they were yesterday, totally told Iraq to f off by ignoring their sovereignty ,, Iraqis can see this clearly

I appreciate President @realDonaldTrump's bold action against Iranian aggression. To the Iranian government: if you want more, you will get more," Graham tweeted.

Just another example of Republicans willingness to concede their responsibility and enable Trumps vision of executive power

Sadly there is no upside if it dosen't escalate Trumps will see his choice as validation to his genius and he will broaden these actions , if it does escalate Trump and his supporters will blame Iran

What would Americans think if Iran called the joint chief of staff a terrorist and they killed him and others in their motorcade in a 3 rd country they were visiting?

'death and maiming the US has done its share "

In the modern era, we don't start wars of aggression.

"But how many Americans ever heard of this General "

Not the least bit relevant. Too many people watch re-runs of 'Friends' instead of the news, that doesn't mean the guy isn't guilty as hell.

"if he was so evil why now ?" Either because this is the first time this target was somewhere where we could get him, or because we now have a president who won't allow others to murder Americans with no response.

"2019 Trump administration labels them a terrorists group.. is this the new way around targeted killings well call them or anyone a terrorist , and we are good to go"

Trump isn't the first person to label this guy a terrorist, not even close. Can you ever be honest?

"Trumps rolling the dice on this one "

Very, very true.

Why is Graham's statement to Iran, a "concession" of his responsibility? He's warning Iran not to target Americans, and you criticize him for that? I think most Americans are OK with a US Senator warning Iran that there may be grave consequences if they try to target Americans. But you think Graham is conceding responsibility for saying that?

Trump can't declare war with Iran by himself. Only Congress can do that.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

'death and maiming the US has done its share "

In the modern era, we don't start wars of aggression. Not really the point was it

"But how many Americans ever heard of this General "

Not the least bit relevant. Too many people watch re-runs of 'Friends' instead of the news, that doesn't mean the guy isn't guilty as hell.

very relevant we kill someone then say how evil he was not all American are on a Trump IV drip


"if he was so evil why now ?" Either because this is the first time this target was somewhere where we could get him, or because we now have a president who won't allow others to murder Americans with no response.


if you believe this is True refer back to IV drip


"2019 Trump administration labels them a terrorists group.. is this the new way around targeted killings well call them or anyone a terrorist , and we are good to go"

Trump isn't the first person to label this guy a terrorist, not even close. Can you ever be honest?

again you missed the point

"Trumps rolling the dice on this one "

Very, very true.

Why is Graham's statement to Iran, a "concession" of his responsibility? He's warning Iran not to target Americans, and you criticize him for that? I think most Americans are OK with a US Senator warning Iran that there may be grave consequences if they try to target Americans. But you think Graham is conceding responsibility for saying that?

Trump can't declare war with Iran by himself. Only Congress can do that.

Trumps not trying to declare war hes is trying to start one but he doesn't think he is .

Otto Warmbier death , President Trump officially announced re-listing North Korea as a State Sponsor of Terrorism.

why didn't we kill Kim or his generals with air strikes for otto ? Trump gave him 2 summits

this is the issues with our current foreign policy, do you even have one that coherent

[wdmso]

Is One Man’s Terrorist Another Man’s Freedom Fighter?


How one decides which is which depends on what end of the gun your on

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Is One Man’s Terrorist Another Man’s Freedom Fighter?


How one decides which is which depends on what end of the gun your on

We don't target civilians. We go out of our way to avoid harming them (you can't always do so, especially when dealing with enemies who use women and children as shields). If you can't see that, you're beyond clueless.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

We don't target civilians. We go out of our way to avoid harming them (you can't always do so, especially when dealing with enemies who use women and children as shields). If you can't see that, you're beyond clueless.

no kidding , but to think enemies who use women and children as shields is the reason we have killed civilians is a sad, that is classic

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

no kidding , but to think enemies who use women and children as shields is the reason we have killed civilians is a sad, that is classic

gibberish.
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[Pete F.]

An article by a smart Iranian refugee and it is a short read.

I am concerned that Floridaman does not have the patience, temperament, skill or support to put what Katiri thinks is a possible outcome together and it will end as another concession to Russia.


Early Friday morning, a U.S. drone strike killed Qassem Soleimani, the head of Iran’s Quds Force, as he rode in a convoy at Iraq’s Baghdad International Airport.

It couldn’t have happened to a better guy. But the question is: What comes next? Because unlike the killing of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, which was a capstone operation, the decision to kill Soleimani is likely to have significant downstream consequences.

The spectrum of possible scenarios is too wide, but the likely outcomes sit closer to the mean, which is continuing escalation from Iran, which would in turn require further escalation from the United States. The good news is that America holds all the good cards and has the opportunity to shape the region’s domestic and international politics.

https://thebulwark.com/killing-solei...nd-its-allies/