IG report

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"all youn ni have is old policys lack of Training'

Let's just start with this...how do you know that the agents who made the serious mistakes, did so from a lack of training? How could you possibly know, that they weren't fully trained but chose to ignore their training in pursuit of this warrant? PLease tell us what evidence you saw, that led you to believe that it was a lack of training, not a willful disregard for proper training, which led to the mistakes?

'no crime "

It wasn't a criminal probe. Durham is conducting a criminal probe, his results haven't been released. How about we wait and hear what he says. And let's be clear, I hope there was no crime, I don't want to think that the Obama Justice department broke the law in order to spy on the Trump campaign. I really, really hope that's not the case.

"If using Republicans defense of trump seeing they got the aid and no investigation was conducted there can be no crime"

More gibberish. Ukraine got the aid. Page was spied on. Neither you nor I know if the DOJ got permission to spy on Page by breaking the law.

"So if carter paige was never arrested never charged.. never went to jail wheres the crime..?"

If anyone knowingly provided false information to get a warrant to spy on him, that could be a crime. Misrepresentation an application to a FISA judge can be a crime.

"We know all about the others charged and jailed why is only paige Fisa warrant mentioned? Or the main focus ?"

Because using a debunked Steele dossier to get permission to suspend the rights of an American citizen, might be considered bad. Even if that citizen worked for the Trump campaign.



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Jim he found no evidence that any of the mistakes were done with any criminal intent or bias or done on purpose... he even asked Dunham for information and he had nothing to add. ... hence this is usually lack of training. It doesn't make it ok. It just kills yours and the Republicans narrative That the FBI. (All of them) were working together to get Trump

And it typical Republican fashion they'll keep having investigations until one finally . Gives them what they want.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim he found no evidence that any of the mistakes were done with any criminal intent or bias or done on purpose... hence this is usually lack of training.

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this is insane

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by scottw

We can’t let go of our conspiracy theories, I know it’s insane, but it’s all we have to work with.

Your deep thoughts should be verbalized, it’s part of the healing process and I know you are all about process🤡🤡🤡.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by scottw

this is insane

Common sense is contraband here....

To many. Think they understand the inner workings of large organizations like the FBI with 35,000 employees while never working in such an environment
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Common sense is contraband here....

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you can't have an ounce of common sense and actually believe this

"no evidence that any of the mistakes were done with any criminal intent or bias or done on purpose... hence this is usually lack of training."

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim he found no evidence that any of the mistakes were done with any criminal intent or bias or done on purpose... he even asked Dunham for information and he had nothing to add. ... hence this is usually lack of training. It doesn't make it ok. It just kills yours and the Republicans narrative That the FBI. (All of them) were working together to get Trump

And it typical Republican fashion they'll keep having investigations until one finally . Gives them what they want.
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Wayne, how about we wait and see what the Durham criminal probe shows, before we draw a conclusion about whether or not laws were broken (and I hope none were). Durham did come out and say that he disagreed with certain aspects of the IG's conclusions.

I don't know where you got that Durham had nothing to add, his probe is wider, he isn't done yet, and he said very clearly that he disagreed with something the IG report said, which necessarily means he does have something to add.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Wayne, how about we wait and see what the Durham criminal probe shows, before we draw a conclusion about whether or not laws were broken (and I hope none were). Durham did come out and say that he disagreed with certain aspects of the IG's conclusions.

I don't know where you got that Durham had nothing to add, his probe is wider, he isn't done yet, and he said very clearly that he disagreed with something the IG report said, which necessarily means he does have something to add.

No need to wait, it will be what Trump and Barr want it to say, it's going to be released when they need a bump and it will be pure spin I'm guessing; just like Barr's spin of the Mueller report.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

No need to wait, it will be what Trump and Barr want it to say, it's going to be released when they need a bump and it will be pure spin I'm guessing; just like Barr's spin of the Mueller report.

This is really dumb
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

This is really dumb
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Hasn't seen a word of the report, but he has already dismissed it.

Nothing that helps Trump, can be valid. Not ever.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

No need to wait, it will be what Trump and Barr want it to say, it's going to be released when they need a bump and it will be pure spin I'm guessing; just like Barr's spin of the Mueller report.

It may well be released when it will help Trump, that doesn't mean that what's in there is wrong. Durham has a very, very impressive resume. The DOJ sent him into the Boston office to clean up the Godawful mess from Whitey Bulger's infiltration, and he did. Worth noting that the US attorney in Boston who allowed the corruption to happen and who was unable to clean it up without Durham doing it for him, was named Robert Mueller.